"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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We shouldn't hit on women? I don't get it.

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in my experience, she's probably more likely to go for the chode than for any of the 25 guys. More likely, she will realize how idiotic the 25 guys are for competing over her and will eventually start to chase after the one guy who she can't easily have.

But you are all missing the point. Why should any of the 25 guys be hitting on her? Why should they be trying to impress her instead of just trying to get to know her?! You all should re-read Pook.
Doesn't happen. Sorry to sound arrogant but that just will not happen on a consistent basis. I'm not sure what experience you have had but in the real world that guy will get ignored unless he has extreme social proof. To suggest otherwise is a Keyboard Jockey's wetdream.

Idiotic those guys may be, that is besides my point. We all (should) know that a "reaction-seeking, trying-to-impress" frame is far from ideal. However, you are still far more likely to succeed by actually taking action than by sitting on the sidelines.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I didn't say the chode was likely to get with her. I said he was more likely than any of the hormongering chumps who are competing for her attention. Big difference. Patience will especially work if the people will see each other on a regular basis, as in work situations.

Read the links I posted about NOT FLIRTING, and become enlightened.
 

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LeComteDeMonteCristo said:
Probably the alpha male out of those 25. Certainly not the chode sitting by himself in the corner trying to act cool and disinterested.
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The best looking/richest 5 of the 25 that are hitting on her... She is to busy with them to worry about the quiet guy by himself in the corner....
Read my first post. I never said anything about sitting in a corner and not talking to the woman. That is avoiding women. Alpha males do not compete with a group of men for a womans attention! lol

You both don't get what some of us are saying. Another way of looking at it is that women know when (AFC) men are hitting on them but you can attract them (DJ) by being your best self.
 

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Yeah we have different different ideas of what it is.
would you please define your stance on the meaning of "hitting on"? I would love to learn your meaning.

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David DeAngelo Jr. ??
:D I have not read anything wrote by David DeAngelo in almost two years.

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Read my first post. I never said anything about sitting in a corner and not talking to the woman. That is avoiding women. Alpha males do not compete with a group of men for a womans attention! lol

You both don't get what some of us are saying. Another way of looking at it is that women know when (AFC) men are hitting on them but you can attract them (DJ) by being your best self.
It's not about me getting what you are saying. I read your first post and I agree with it. That goes without saying. I just think people are far far too worried about being a "DJ" or whatever. I say to hell with it, go out there and be an AFC. At least those AFCs are actually taking some action while the "DJs" on this site are mentally masturbating with Pook's posts. To hell with all the crap you've read on this site, purge it from your mind. Go out several times per week, talk to at least five groups of women per week, use your gut instinct instead of worrying about being a DJ. In a couple of months you will be socially calibrated enough to see how completely irrelevant questions such as the OP are.
 

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Pook is all about action, jackass. Do not insult the Great One.

And no, competing with a group of guys for a woman's attention will almost never work. You've heard of c0ckblocking and the fact that it can mess up even the most attuned of players? Well, imagine being c0ckblocked by 24 guys at once, and then tell me you still think taking "action" would leave you feeling satisfied at the end of the night.
 

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would you please define your stance on the meaning of "hitting on"? I would love to learn your meaning.


:D I have not read anything wrote by David DeAngelo in almost two years.

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yeah i just view hitting on a chick as being playful, teasing her,c+f, flirting, making fun of her, busting her balls, bantering, (basically all the same thing just different words for marketing)
 

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EFFORT said:
yeah i just view hitting on a chick as being playful, teasing her,c+f, flirting, making fun of her, busting her balls, bantering, (basically all the same thing just different words for marketing)
basically, what I was saying. Just with different words.

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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Pook is all about action, jackass. Do not insult the Great One.

And no, competing with a group of guys for a woman's attention will almost never work. You've heard of c0ckblocking and the fact that it can mess up even the most attuned of players? Well, imagine being c0ckblocked by 24 guys at once, and then tell me you still think taking "action" would leave you feeling satisfied at the end of the night.
Who cares whether Pook is all about action? How does that affect anyone else? My concern is with the masses of men who would rather analyze his articles instead of getting out there and experiencing things for themselves. That is what leads to people posting questions like the OP. That is just not something someone would ask if he actually had real life experiences to use as a point of reference.

Go outside, go somewhere where there are lots of women. Talk to them without being inside your head, without worrying about what Pook or whoever would do. Don't worry about being ****blocked by 25 guys. That will never happen. You only need to do this for a couple of months and soon you will see how completely irrelevant most of this site is.
 

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I thought that said "shouldn't hit women".
 

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Obsidian said:
I didn't say the chode was likely to get with her. I said he was more likely than any of the hormongering chumps who are competing for her attention. Big difference. Patience will especially work if the people will see each other on a regular basis, as in work situations.

Read the links I posted about NOT FLIRTING, and become enlightened.
LETS PUT IT THIS WAY... all the dude who she finds attractive will have a chance... but the chode in the corner will usually get the sloppy second thirds an fourths... Or may take so long that he becomes her friend before he gets her in bed and then never does...LOL
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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comic_relief said:
I understand what Pook was trying to say and I have to say that he is spot on.

Hitting on a girl = showing your cards too quickly

If you show your cards too quickly, then there won't be ANY mystery. She will think "Oh no, just another loser."

BUT!!!

Approaching a girl and talking casually + c/f = wtf?!? Does he like me or doesn't he? I cannot count the number of times that I have used that and got a success with the ladies.

Actually, my current girlfriend didn't know I even liked her for about three weeks because I would constantly tease her and just act friendly. Then, as she was complaining to me about her weight and her best friend was there.
Her: "I look ugly."
Me: "Stop that right now, you are actually one of the most attractive women that I ever met."

This played an entire 180 degree reversal in her mind. Now, we have been dating for eight months and two days.

When you go in hitting on a girl, you already are placing her on a pedestal. If she is on a pedestal, then you cannot see who she truely is. As DJ's, it is our duty to only pick out the best. My current girlfriend didn't knew I liked her because I didn't know that I liked her at all.

Approach = no desire for anything but a good friendship.

Don't hit on her, just approach her as you would a male friend. Try to make friends to find out what she is like then decide.

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I forgot one major part of his theory.

Since Pook was a subscriber and writer of Anti-Dump's machine. He also subscribed to the theory of treating every woman like they are the same. I personally, treat every girl like they were a guy.

Treat them like they were one of your buds that you go out with.

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LETS PUT IT THIS WAY... all the dude who she finds attractive will have a chance... but the chode in the corner will usually get the sloppy second thirds an fourths... Or may take so long that he becomes her friend before he gets her in bed and then never does...LOL
You don't get it.

-Are women attracted to men who treats her like a goddess and therefore making himself seem unworthy?
-Nobody said anything about sitting in a corner and avoiding women. Difference is DJ's don't treast women like goddesses unlike the unworthy AFC's who look rediculous competing with each other for a woman.
-The last part where you talk about becoming friends is more likely to happen to all the AFC's making fools of themselves. They are the ones who are deminstrating they'll do anything for her attention which means they are certain to get friend zoned.
 

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Most of these chumps are too lazy to actually read Anti-Dump's Machine, even though I posted all the links for them. :rolleyes: Just let them all keep flirting with girls and competing for their attention. See how far it gets them.
 

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Obsidian said:
Most of these chumps are too lazy to actually read Anti-Dump's Machine, even though I posted all the links for them. :rolleyes: Just let them all keep flirting with girls and competing for their attention. See how far it gets them.
Yeah let them learn the hard way. I've been where they are and got nowhere. Even though they don't get what we're saying (which is ok, they'll learn) some are still trying to argue against it. :rolleyes:
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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