Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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"We just met"

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Alright, so I was at a college party last night, was getting some really good vibes from this 10, lots of kino, all over me, the whole 9 yards. So we were sitting on a couch just the 2 of us, and I started playing with her hair a little and told her she has beautiful hair, she looked at me and smiled, and I leaned in for a kiss and she threw out the line that "we just met". I did end up getting her number, and she seemed very eager for me to to get in touch with her later, but what would have been some good lines to throw out after her "we just met" line, cause in the heat of battle I drew a blank.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It is not about lines. It's about YOU. Can a 10 really be attracted to a guy who needs lines, or draws blank, or is able to get her on the couch, smell her hair, but not kiss her. She even gave him her number because he is that confident.
 

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This situation does seem a little off...

Did she approach you, or did you appraoch her?

My first impression would be that you didn't have her attracted as much as you think... you could have tested the waters to see if she would kiss you first... or maybe it's that the conversation was more on a platonic level, ie you weren't engaging her emotions enough, and then you went in for a kiss...

As an analogy, you were ready to skydive, and you pulled the chute string before jumping out of the plane.
 

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So pimp its scary said:
you weren't engaging her emotions enough, and then you went in for a kiss...

She did initially approach me at the party, but I think what you said right there is an accurate statement. I think I just jumped the gun.
 

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I always ask...lol..just a thing of mine.I like seeing them blush too..
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Tha Realnezz said:
I always ask...lol..just a thing of mine.I like seeing them blush too..
That's why one of my favorite lines is : "Do you want me to kiss you ?"

Except I wouldn't recommend giving the advice of asking for a kiss, I can see the threads already... "I asked for a kiss like DJ said, and she said no, what next?"
 

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But then say, "O.k., I'll be sure to do that sometime ;) "

Or ask if she wants to kiss you, then if she says yes/ maybe/ I don't know.. say "lets find out" then kiss her. If she says "no" just say "I just asked because it looked like you had something on your mind..." and go right into another conversation.
 

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Ok... go ahead and ask... just don't ask wrong or at the wrong time.

By that I mean, don't ask for a kiss unless you're at least reasonably certain that she wants to.

What you got is dangerous advice... IT'S VERY EASY to ask for a kiss in the wrong way...

For you I would recommend one of the following :

1 - Triangle gaze : Look her in the right eye, the left eye, then her lips... do this 2-3 times, then lean in for a kiss.

2 - Move a piece of her hair behind her ear, if a girl lets you do this, she'll typically be ok with you kissing her.

3 - (best in a place with loud music) Talk real close to her ear, the move closer to her mouth, if she's ok for the kiss she'll come in the rest of the way, if she doesn't just lean back like it didn't happen.

Themanthatcan, Even if the girl says 'No' you can still say, 'let's find out anyway'... It's happened a few times where a girl said no to that question more out of instinct to an odd question than out of a refusal to kiss... I still don't think this is a great newbie move tho.
 

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You dudes are all about lines. Prescripted.


The guy's problem is that he thinks the girl is a number 10. He was all over her. He is way too easy, meaning low value. She tested him, he proved it.

That is assuming that what he saying is indeer the truth. I doubt it is, because I think he is a 1 poster who is looking for lines and here he had a number 10 approach his looser a55 and all that sh1t happened. That sounds way off......


Number or no number, she won't be responsive to him.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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That's what I was originally trying to say, but things got spun around...
 

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djSlvt said:
The guy's problem is that he thinks the girl is a number 10. He was all over her. He is way too easy, meaning low value. She tested him, he proved it.

That is assuming that what he saying is indeer the truth. I doubt it is, because I think he is a 1 poster who is looking for lines and here he had a number 10 approach his looser a55 and all that sh1t happened. That sounds way off......


Number or no number, she won't be responsive to him.
No you're wrong, and the whole scenario is totally true and just how it happened. Why would I make something like that up?

Anyways, I know I just jumped the gun on trying to kiss her, simple as that.

And yes, it shouldn't be about lines either.
 

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Women do not approach men. She might be madly in love with you and you could be a perfect 10, she still won't approach you. They do however, approach to teath and toy. In this respect your story could sound believable. She approached you to toy around, when you got too serious, she pushed you away.


But there it is again, you need to work on improving yourself. If I am able to question your validity simply by reading a few lines of crap you wrote, woman is able to pick it up as soon as you two make eye contact.


As it is, you are on the wrong path. Think of PU as magic. It is not about the trick you do, it is about the presentation. If you unable to present your material right, then it don't matter even if you can pull rabit out of your a55, it's just not interesting.

You learn PU when you change the way you think, your brain gets rewired, that needs time and some practice.


What you should be getting out of this, is that asking her if she wants to kiss is not all you need, there is much more things too it, and that one thing will not improve you. My advice, keep up your study/transformation.

and NOT that you screwed up because you jumped the gun.

If you are able to adapt a rapport with me by the way I'm posting, then you should be able to understand this. I still think you're not genuine with us.
 

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djSlvt said:
My advice, keep up your study/transformation.

and NOT that you screwed up because you jumped the gun.

If you are able to adapt a rapport with me by the way I'm posting, then you should be able to understand this. I still think you're not genuine with us.
Don't worry, I'm being totally genuine, and I'm man enough to admit that I screwed up a little bit in the encounter. I totally understand you, and I'm gonna continue to practice and work on this stuff. I have a much better understanding of how everything happened now, so thanks for the advice.
 

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And I can tell by that last one that we'll be giving you similar advice next time...

DJslut is raising some good points here... when he's saying that you're not sounding genuine, he's not saying that you're lying... just that you aren't really seeing the root causes of these types of problems... where you are thinking the effects (jumping the gun in this case) is the cause of the problem.

Make sense?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Look at the facts: she approached you, gave you good vibes, and was basically all over you. From this, you can see that she is definitely attracted to you. However, in most circumstances, this will not be enough for you to be able to kiss-close, and certainly not enough for you to f-close.

The problem is that women do not want to be made to feel cheap. You're vibing with this girl, you're obviously attracted to each other, and you go in for the kiss. Maybe a part of her does want to kiss you, but she resists because she does not want to appear easy. You're still just strangers in her mind. There is no reason for her to be kissing you. It just doesn't feel "right".

In the beginning of an interaction, you're building attraction with a girl - you vibe, tease, kino, etc. and this is a necessary step, however, soon the interaction will need to develop into something more than this. You reach a point where you must start to make a real, genuine connection with the girl. A connection that legitimizes the attraction that you have built, and then enables you to escalate to something more.

This, imo, is what your problem is, my friend. Stop rushing things. After you've built attraction, work on developing a rapport and comfort with the girl before attempting to escalate.
 

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BuildingSomethingBig said:
You reach a point where you must start to make a real, genuine connection with the girl. A connection that legitimizes the attraction that you have built, and then enables you to escalate to something more.

This, imo, is what your problem is, my friend. Stop rushing things. After you've built attraction, work on developing a rapport and comfort with the girl before attempting to escalate.

Yeah that definitely makes sense. Thanks.
 
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