we can't all be wrong

[Bingo-Player]

its often said here that if a chick is taking a long time to reply to messages/ texts then her interest is low in you

i can see the mentality behind the theory but i don't think its entirely true

i think its more like chicks these days have so many guys texting them i think all of them get the "low interest treatment"

its almost like a power trip for these chicks , just imagine having 7 amazing looking girls hitting you up every day practically begging for sex

after initially banging a few of them you would soon get bored and you would want to see how far you could push them, you would want to see how far these women would actually go for you

worrying huh

well thats just the tip of the ice berg

I've being doing a lot of recon lately i keep hearing the same complaints from all of my guy friends "she keeps taking ages to reply / won't initiate contact"

I'm also "friends" with a lot of women and i often try to get a peek at they're phones

9 times out of 10 the notification bar is full to the brim with messages every single one from a different guy stuff like .....

"hey what you up to"

hey babe what you doing tonight "

"fancy coming over mine to chill"

and so on and so forth

was she replying to any of them ?

NO

and these are actually guys these girls know !!!

so you can amplify this attitude 10 fold towards a random guy on say POF or tinder

i genuniley believe the day of "getting numbers" is dead

these days i don't even bother taking numbers , i run all my game whilst I've got 100% of her attention if i can't attract her enough at this point then I'm not going to be able to do it via texting

 

[Bingo-Player]

but as a community are we not slightly concerned over this ?

everyday i see 100's of white knight afc's telling these girls how beautiful and amazing they are on Facebook

these guys aren't even getting pussvy but they honestly believe saying this sh*t will get them laid

i for one am starting to get seriously worried about how powerful women are getting

some chicks ive fvcked are even refusing to initiate contact and I'm a good looking guy with a respectable level of game

 

[AttackFormation]

but as a community are we not slightly concerned over this ?

everyday i see 100's of white knight afc's telling these girls how beautiful and amazing they are on Facebook

these guys aren't even getting pussvy but they honestly believe saying this sh*t will get them laid

i for one am starting to get seriously worried about how powerful women are getting

some chicks ive fvcked are even refusing to initiate contact and I'm a good looking guy with a respectable level of game

Yeah it sucks but what do you want to do about it?

 

[IBreatheSpears]

What you gotta do is establish their baseline behaviour. This is what psychologists and interrogators do to detect deception, discomfort and such. You establish the person's baseline (normal) behaviour and then see when they deviate from it. For example, many people believe that if someone touches their face while they're speaking or looks in a certain direction, it means they're lying. But it could be that the person is just naturally anxious. To detect a lie you have to observe that the person consistently displays anxiety signs above the baseline when you visit a certain topic. (And to prove that it's a lie you have to actually find a contradiction in what the person says - only a very poor interrogator relies on body language signs as anything more than prompts for further questioning.)

The relevance is: if a girl always takes a long time to reply, then there's a good chance it's just her personality or preferences, or that she simply has too many texts to reply to them all*. It's only if she suddenly starts replying more quickly or slowly that you should start making inferences about her interest level. I do think it's a bad sign if she regularly takes more than, say, 12 hours to reply, though.

* Once, I was on a date with a girl who usually took a few hours to reply to my texts, and my plans fell through, so she went on facebook to see what events were going on. When she turned on her phone there were literally about 200 notifications from What's App, Kik, texts or whatever. I'm not even exaggerating. 200. Being a pretty girl must be a real fu­cking drag at times.

 

[DragonBlood]

just imagine having 7 amazing looking girls hitting you up every day practically begging for sex

after initially banging a few of them you would soon get bored and you would want to see how far you could push them, you would want to see how far these women would actually go for you


i for one am starting to get seriously worried about how powerful women are getting

The answer is fairly obvious.

Think of it like running a business. Why would a girl buy sex from YOU when she is already getting more offers than she needs? As much as I like my computer if I had a salesman on my door everyday offering me a new one I doubt I would buy it, at best I might ask for his best offer.


What you have to do is offer something she DOESNT have and demand sex as the trade. Be fun, physical, confident, independent, lead etc. Offer masculine energy instead of pandering for sex over the phone. Be the kind of person she wants in her life but only stay around if she is willing to put out. What ever is missing in her life hold it at ransom and flip the script. Also, appear as indifferent and abundant towards sex in your attitude as she does to rob her of "power" in your interactions, the topic shouldnt really come up so much as getting her to increase compliance.


Although I dont think girls owe us anything simply because we want it my personal concern is that leading guys on to the maximum just to see how far they can get and not letting them become "bored" of sex stuns their emotional growth. Many years wasted learning "the game" instead of enjoying life.


I actually cover the topic of compliance and getting the results you want in my tips thread:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=221473

---Build compliance to protect your emotions---
With girls you want to reward good behavior and punish bad behavior. If they are good to you give attention and compliments... if they do something you dont like punish bad behavior with negs and withdrawing attention. This communicates that you have standards and are willing to walk, but ultimately want to build something special. In some cases you will actually have to walk and find someone better, but thats kind of the point of super fun time. For example your girl stops having sex with you as often as you like (**** test), well stop spending as much time together watching her favorite shows... ehh be subtle about it though. Hell why not go out to the bar for the hour without reason to really drive her nuts Maybe even complain to other single girls there that your girl doesnt put out like she use too and things arent special anymore hahahaha

If you FAIL to build compliance over time the girl will not agree to being isolated with you, or worse still down the road she will feel OK with cheating on you because she knows she wont be punished, you will stay around like a chump and keep feeding her positive vibes for less and less investment. Once a girl feels like she owns you they get lazy in an instant. Protect your emotions and build compliance before you over invest in a roller-coaster relationship. They say the best relationships are those where the couple spend their lives "winning each other over". Never give yourself all away.

This also goes out to all those guys who fear marriage and getting screwed over. See a girl over the course of 10 years and give marriage as a "reward" for decades of solid relationship compliance. Lock a girl down too soon by rewarding low investment on her part and you are in a hella trouble. In fact all windows of escalation (compliment, physical, date, your place, parents place, moving in, kids, marriage etc) should be viewed as "rewards" for compliance and teammate fun like behavior. Your life isnt a charity. Make that ***** work her ass off!!

 

[Bingo-Player]

Yeah it sucks but what do you want to do about it?

lol i can't change the world by myself bro , as spears explains above we need to break down they're baseline behaviour

once we can understand why chicks are doing the things they're doing we can start fixing it

we need more screenshots of messages everyones sending and receiving

 

[Bingo-Player]

What you have to do is offer something she DOESNT have and demand sex as the trade. Be fun, physical, confident, independent, lead etc. Offer masculine energy instead of pandering for sex over the phone. Be the kind of person she wants in her life but only stay around if she is willing to put out. What ever is missing in her life hold it at ransom and flip the script. Also, appear as indifferent and abundant towards sex in your attitude as she does to rob her of "power" in your interactions, the topic shouldnt really come up so much as getting her to increase compliance.

this is good , really good

 

[zekko]

i think its more like chicks these days have so many guys texting them i think all of them get the "low interest treatment"

This is in essence the "male problem". I tend to think about birds when it comes to the mating game. The female bird sits there while all the male birds put on their mating dances, and she will pick the one with the best dance, display of plumage, whatever. The point is the female is passive while the males all pursue her.

It's kind of like that with humans. The woman sits around while the males all hit on her. If she likes any of them, she accepts. From the man's perspective, the problem is how to stand out from the rest of the crowd. A lot of "game" is trying to figure out exactly how to do this. Regarding PUA Theory, I think some of it is useful, and some of it is garbage.