"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Ways to be a nice guy without actually being a nice guy...

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Here are a few tips for you to be a nice guy without being a chump. These are things that girls will notice about you that you may think they don't care about, but will go A LONG way with scoring attraction points.

Bear in mind, you still want to treat your TARGET girl in ways that are mentioned here on this site, but you can display a higher value to OTHERS.

Talk to older ladies. Get involved in your community, go to an old person's home, or just approach older ladies while you are out. Treat them with HIGH respect. There's nothing more attractive to a girl than to see a guy treat an older lady with incredibly respect, but treats HER like crap.

Do things with kids. Be a role model for a kid. Join a local Big Brothers, Big Sisters. A guy who has kids who like him are like GOLD to a girl, because in the back of her mind she is always thinking about things like what kind of father you'll be. So being a hit with the kids is a definate PLUS.

Get an animal and treat it like it's your offspring They say that "kids and animals have sixth sense about people" and that if they like you, then you must be a decent person.

Befriend someone who is fat, ugly, or is an outcast If you are seen as someone who isn't stuck up, and is naturally sociable, you will score points. Also, this puts you in the frame that "looks" don't matter to you.

Make strong family connections A guy who loves his family and spends some of his time with them is viewed in a very positive light to a girl.


Those are just a couple of things I noticed. You're not going to be an actual "nice guy". You are still you. You still know what you want and go after what you want. Hell, you can still be an @sshole if you want! But a guy who has a soft spot for these kinds of things is very attractive.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I like your post but you must understand that your post implies that you do these very things to create an image of you being worthy.

That's like Chevron or Shell putting out commercials that they are helping wildlife when all they're doing is giving out a couple bucks here and there without really doing much. It's kinda like that guy who "volunteers" when he's really out looking for single chicks to pick up on.

I believe in charity begins at home, people should take the time and relate to their families more often and definitely help out the elderly. If you posted your tip as a sense for us MEN to help make the world a little better, fine. But if your post was about creating an image for WOMEN, the post sucks.
 

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Vypros said:
Talk to older ladies. Get involved in your community, go to an old person's home, or just approach older ladies while you are out. Treat them with HIGH respect. There's nothing more attractive to a girl than to see a guy treat an older lady with incredibly respect, but treats HER like crap.

Do things with kids. Be a role model for a kid. Join a local Big Brothers, Big Sisters. A guy who has kids who like him are like GOLD to a girl, because in the back of her mind she is always thinking about things like what kind of father you'll be. So being a hit with the kids is a definate PLUS.

Get an animal and treat it like it's your offspring They say that "kids and animals have sixth sense about people" and that if they like you, then you must be a decent person.

Befriend someone who is fat, ugly, or is an outcast If you are seen as someone who isn't stuck up, and is naturally sociable, you will score points. Also, this puts you in the frame that "looks" don't matter to you.

Make strong family connections A guy who loves his family and spends some of his time with them is viewed in a very positive light to a girl.
Doesn't everyone do this already?

here is some other ways to be a nice guy without actually being a nice guy:
1.) Meet and talk with everyone - the more people that you know, the more social proof that you have. I know well over five hundred people at my campus and it shows. I'm always busy with something and have stories to tell. This makes girls interested in me all the time.
Example: I'm aloud to get into some of the most exclusive parties on campus if I so choose to go (usually don't go), but I had a girl that wanted to get to this really awesome party. She tried and failed to get in, but she told me. I said, "Let me see what I can do." Five minutes later, I was back and she was in. I had fun that night :D .

2.) Don't b!tch - Don't become a complainer, become a problem solver
Example: My one friend was mad about not getting a job at the food service area of campus. She was constantly complaining about it and I said this, "Shut the hell up." I then went up to the director of food services. Convo Time:
Me: "Hey Bob"
Bob: "Hey Kyle, what can I do for you?"
Me: "a friend of mine wants to work here and she has an excellent work ethic. Think you could get her a job here?"
Bob: "Yeah, tell her to fill out an application to work and we will get back to her."
Me: "See thats the thing, she handed the application in about four weeks ago and she hasn't recieved a call back."
Bob: "Well, let me go take a look at this. What's her name?
Me: "It's Sarah"
Bob: "Alright, are you sitting with her?"
Me: "Yeah."
Bob: "Excellent"

Time passes for a couple minutes while I chat with Sarah. Bob comes back upstairs.

Bob: "Hey guys, is this Sarah?"
Me: "Yeah"
Bob: "I'm sorry about not getting back to you earlier. We misplaced your application and we would love to have you work here."
Sarah: "Excellent" [conversation continues and then Bob leaves]
Sarah: "Thank you so much. Why did you do that?"
Me: "I saw that all you were doing was b!tching about it. I just took matters into my own hands and help you out."
Current Girlfriend (before she was my girlfriend): "Wow..."
Me: "When you know, Kyle sh!t gets done."

Look at the difference between Sarah and me. She just b!tched alot about not getting the job. I decided to take matters into my own hands and fix the problem. Which person would you rather be, a complainer or a problem solver?

3.) super sexualize - (expert Don Juans ONLY) Start to talk about sex and things that you did with women. Like I only started off with simple one-liners like example:
Sarah: "I like chocolate"
Current girlfriend (before she was my girlfriend): "I like music"
Me: "I love sex!"
Current girlfriend: "My god, TMI"
Me: "No, TMI is saying that it would be with you and the other sarah. You know? In group sex :rockon: "

Then I moved it up further and further. Now, I only sexualize myself around my current girlfriend and her friends. I make them laugh even though it infuriates my current girlfriend because I am basically hitting on all of her friends while she is standing right there. I told her though, "You try and change my personality to something that I am not, then I will be gone."

4.) have dreams and work toward them - nothing turns a girl on more, than a guy that has a passion and dream. I once believed that a passion was something like weight lifting or baseball, but I found out that is just a hobby. A passion is something that makes you get up in the morning and you will work toward for your entire life.

Personally, my dream is to start up my own businesses and become fiancially independent. I am beginning it by this year, buying mutual funds and start up my stock portfolio.

My other dream that I have is to become a motivational speaker on the subject of bullying/not-for-profit corporations/fundraising at schools and companies. I will eventually have it happen and I am studying how to do it. Yesterday, I was over at my girlfriends and was reading the book, "The Millionaire Mind." We talked about it, and she was interested in the fact that I was following my passion and some of the ideas that I have been accumulating (like in the words of Steve Pavlina, getting a job is "generating Income for dummies").

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comic_relief said:
3.) super sexualize - (expert Don Juans ONLY) Start to talk about sex and things that you did with women. Like I only started off with simple one-liners like example:
Sarah: "I like chocolate"
Current girlfriend (before she was my girlfriend): "I like music"
Me: "I love sex!"
Current girlfriend: "My god, TMI"
Me: "No, TMI is saying that it would be with you and the other sarah. You know? In group sex :rockon: "

Then I moved it up further and further. Now, I only sexualize myself around my current girlfriend and her friends. I make them laugh even though it infuriates my current girlfriend because I am basically hitting on all of her friends while she is standing right there. I told her though, "You try and change my personality to something that I am not, then I will be gone."

4.) have dreams and work toward them - nothing turns a girl on more, than a guy that has a passion and dream. I once believed that a passion was something like weight lifting or baseball, but I found out that is just a hobby. A passion is something that makes you get up in the morning and you will work toward for your entire life.

Personally, my dream is to start up my own businesses and become fiancially independent. I am beginning it by this year, buying mutual funds and start up my stock portfolio.

My other dream that I have is to become a motivational speaker on the subject of bullying/not-for-profit corporations/fundraising at schools and companies. I will eventually have it happen and I am studying how to do it. Yesterday, I was over at my girlfriends and was reading the book, "The Millionaire Mind." We talked about it, and she was interested in the fact that I was following my passion and some of the ideas that I have been accumulating (like in the words of Steve Pavlina, getting a job is "generating Income for dummies").

comic_relief
These two really have NOTHING to do with being a nice guy, even if the advice is ok.

People don't look at a sex fiend and think "Oh what a nice guy" and dreams? Comn, that's good advice, but in reality it's a selfish thing. Being nice is about being the opposite of selfish. Granted, I'm not saying that you shouldn't dream, I'm just saying it has nothing to do with being nice.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Hitman10000 said:
I like your post but you must understand that your post implies that you do these very things to create an image of you being worthy.

That's like Chevron or Shell putting out commercials that they are helping wildlife when all they're doing is giving out a couple bucks here and there without really doing much. It's kinda like that guy who "volunteers" when he's really out looking for single chicks to pick up on.

I believe in charity begins at home, people should take the time and relate to their families more often and definitely help out the elderly. If you posted your tip as a sense for us MEN to help make the world a little better, fine. But if your post was about creating an image for WOMEN, the post sucks.
Just because I say it scores points with women, doesn't mean that you should do it FOR them. I know that's how I sounded, but I certainly didn't mean it in that way. I was just explaining more along the lines that you CAN be a nice guy and still be attractive to women.
 
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