Wayne Ross's book sets you back to afc land

[Dodgeball]

Reading Wayne Ross's complete guide to attracting women, Although some of it's useful there were parts that cried out afc!

Example:

1.
Bring her a present on the first date. She'll view your generosity as a sign of love, of caring, of giving. Try it. Next time you arrive to pick her up see how excited she is because you've brought her a box of candy, a card you thought was funny or some flowers.
Do the above and I guarantee you won't be sorry. You will be amply rewarded.

And his dangerling method, which could be great but it needs improvement i mean look at this!

2. I dated Barbara seven times before I even tried anything sexual at all (other than an occasional kiss). By that time Barbara was ready to attack me. She even asked me why I didn't find her attractive.

(in my opinion all girls aren't like this, if you completely cut sexual interest they'll move onto someone else)

Im new and confused but wayne ross seem's to give afc information in this book :S

 

[JC9]

2. I dated Barbara seven times before I even tried anything sexual at all (other than an occasional kiss). By that time Barbara was ready to attack me. She even asked me why I didn't find her attractive.

(in my opinion all girls aren't like this, if you completely cut sexual interest they'll move onto someone else)

Im new and confused but wayne ross seem's to give afc information in this book :S

There are some valid points to #2, but his example seems to be taken to the extreme.

Showing some restraint, while keeping the dates sexually charged can pay off in spades.

If you sleep with a girl on the first date, it can actually cause problems if you are interested in her for more than a one time bang.

However, if you are getting hot & heavy but are the one to pull back and say you should slow down you are going to amp her attraction for you. Caveat to that, it will ramp her attraction if you are someone she wants to date and your interactions with her are more relationship framed than ONS. If you have a ONS frame to your interaction and dont **** her, you kill the attraction.

If you are the one who stops it from going all the way on the first date, you are going to have a seriously horny girl on the second date and the sex will be much much better due to her trusting you and thus letting herself be more free with her sexual nature.

In my experience if I have sex on the first date, while in the relationship frame, it's not very good. The girl holds back. But with girls I've gotten very horny then slowed down with on the first date, they go wild on me when we have sex on the second. Not only do you get better sex, but you get much more of it since you took the time to build a bit of trust.

 

[Latinoman]

The thing about #2 is that if the woman believes the man is just trying to be a friend or the man does not find her attractive...and ANOTHER man comes into her life (7 dates could be as little as 3 weeks, but at many as 7+ weeks), she might go with the other man.

And then what? Seven dates x $20 average (MINIMUM) per date = $140.00.
Now...what happens if she loses interest or put him in the friend zone? Then he has to START all over again.

I don't date unless I'm involved intimate or semi-intimate with the woman.

 

[mrRuckus]

And then what? Seven dates x $20 average (MINIMUM) per date = $140.00.
Now...what happens if she loses interest or put him in the friend zone? Then he has to START all over again.

Um don't pay.

I don't even pay for my gf very often. They have jobs; don't they?

My last two exgfs even paid for me a lot. Granted, one made more money than i...

 

[Dodgeball]

but seriously the first tip i mean, thats really shooting people down to afcness isnt it?

 

[JC9]

but seriously the first tip i mean, thats really shooting people down to afcness isnt it?

Maybe the author is writing the book for very young people.

When I re-read those two examples it sounds like something you would do during your very first dating experiences at age like 14-16.

I'd imagine a girl going on her first date ever would be very pleased if you showed up with a teddy bear or something like that.

Then again, AFC is more an attitude than anything. A DJ could show up with a boquet of flowers and use it to his advantage.

 

[Latinoman]

Um don't pay.

I don't even pay for my gf very often. They have jobs; don't they?

My last two exgfs even paid for me a lot. Granted, one made more money than i...

Reading point #1 (where he advice for a GIFT) is reason enough for me to believe that HE encourage paying.

Personally, if I invite a woman to a date...I WILL pay. That's the way I am. Otherwise, I find it CHEAP. Of course, everything is within reason. No woman will take advantage of me.

BUT...I don't date women that I'm NOT already intimate with (or have at the very least kissed and touched). So, I already know I'm not wasting time and $.

Furthermore, I'm very lucky that I've been with women that have offered to pay (and have paid) and have cooked for me in the past.

 

[Latinoman]

Maybe the author is writing the book for very young people.

When I re-read those two examples it sounds like something you would do during your very first dating experiences at age like 14-16.

I'd imagine a girl going on her first date ever would be very pleased if you showed up with a teddy bear or something like that.

Then again, AFC is more an attitude than anything. A DJ could show up with a boquet of flowers and use it to his advantage.

I agree 100% with EVERYTHING you wrote...including the DJ showing up with a bouquet of flowers. It comes down to oportunity and understanding your "prey".