"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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londonzen

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hi there this girl at )work i say hb7(half white half chinese) kinda posh and that well any way the main things she quite weird ie the first time i ever saw her she knew my name and when she sees me she will say "you allright zen? yeah yeah yeah" and nod like a crazy person she scares me a bit.
any way im a flirt so i talk to her in the lift not obvious.

now the last time i saw her(about 3 weeks ago) we are in the lift im just small talking and not really listening but i hear her say shes a temp and next weeks her last week, i know im on holiday the next week but say nothing any way she ask me "so where do you live" straight after. i tell her then ask where she lives not far from work she gives a big smile blushes then says
"i will talk to you next week"

now yesterday she comes in (shes a regular temp) and come into our room when im not there. but tells my collegue shes been back all week and ask have i left

now today about 4.30 today im standing by the lift day dreaming about home time when i hear "hey zen how are you?" i look up she was walking past but stops comes towards me and asked "hey zen any plans for the weekend ,wat you doing?
i really cant be bothered to go into detail but im going to the beach with friends 2mor so i say nothing special to her just a quiet 1 i ask wat about you she says
"yeah me too i doing nothing at all im so bored." she then stares at me for a few seconds as if she wants me to say something. then she says have a nice weekend and walks off.


now was she basically putting it on the plate? and feels i rejected her for a nothing weekend or was she tryna be nice, as i think it was so random the way she just asked that question and left.

another thing after this i walked past her desk in her eyeline and she didnt even look at me she kind of blushed and had a pissed off face im quite confused by the situation.

thanks
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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My gut feeling is she's attracted to you and can't come right out and say it. Instead she's dropping subtle hints like what are you up to and I'm bored. She wanted you to ask her out. Now she feels rejected.

The thing about her nodding like crazy make sense. It's an approval seeking behavior. I did a LOT of that in my super AFC days LOL.
 

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Oh man, heck yeah shes attracted to you. I mean honestly when someone ask how you doing, that means they care enough to even ask you that. And her saying shes bored, she wants a MAN of adventure!!! Shes being nice to you. GO GO GO ask her out. Adventure thats who you are, now go and show her!
 

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ok im gonna talk to her next week try and bang it by the end of the month
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Just remember london, you sat on your hands with the hot latino, and she dissapeared. dont wait too long.
 

londonzen

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Joe Stud said:
Just remember london, you sat on your hands with the hot latino, and she dissapeared. dont wait too long.

good to see that things are remembered here i will not sit on my hands with her lol
 

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saw the girl today while waiting for the lift i was going up she sees me standing there(with loads of people going to lunch) through the doors and walks up and presses down but doesnt look at me and looks pissed off then turn and pretends she just sees me and says "oh hi" and when i say hi back she walks over and we both say how was your weekend at the same time.

she tells me hers was boring and but she went out saturday night (i didnt ask where) then she asked how was mine i told her about the beach she was like
" what when on saturday? was it planned what a mission"

my up lift comes and opens and two other girls i flirt with are inside they both smile and 1 comes out ,i switch off for a few seconds as i walk towards the lift and the girl follows me right to the door, i then realise shes still talking and she ask me where i went and how long it took i come out with "ermm i cant remeber you know" i seriously couldnt.

she realises that the lifts going up when i say "i will talk to you later"
and says "yeah i wont hold you up" or something and then as if she realises that im miles away she laughs, lightly but firmly touches my arm enough that i turn round and shes smiling.

then the other girl in the lift looks at me like "whos she" and then straight after ask "where did you go?"

i hope i see that other girl 2mor alone as today imo she showed she is definetly interested
 

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londonzen said:
"hey zen any plans for the weekend ,wat you doing?


Sometimes the best line is to cut through the bullsh1t and lay the truth down.

You should have just said that your plans over the weekend is to take her out.

That's it, it ain't brain surgery.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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