"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Was she never interested?

pete101

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 21, 2006
Messages
1,030
Reaction score
8
In separate topic from my other thread, over the weekend I picked up a young girl (18) in the supermarket Saturday evening. She's only 4 years younger than me but I could tell she was a little bit apprehensive giving her number out to a complete stranger (She's only just finished high school). It went really well, had her laughing, generally did amazing in my opinion, made her qualify herself to me by saying she was too young for me etc. generally speaking it went very very well.

I went for the phone number and she wasn't comfortable giving it so she offered her blackberry messenger instead and added me. So far so good I thought.

I leave it till today to contact her and I wrote 'hey there my little cutie :) hope you had a good weekend and didnt' get up to too much trouble around your end. ;) haha x'

she replied with: yeah had a good weekend and didn't get up to too much trouble! ;) haha. hope you had a good weekend too. x'

seemed so far so good.

then i sent: 'haha yeah i guess there's only so much trouble you can get up to around (the area next to her area) with all the tress and stuff. you look cute in your pic. x'

followed immediately by *trees and (your area not the area next to your area) - i just corrected my mistake.

Bear in mind it's like an instant messenger convo not a text.

Was the 2nd message i sent too sleazy?

She deleted me as a contact after that. I guess the problem with blackberry messenger is that it's risk free for girls, they can just delete you as a contact and it's over, no number given out nothing. I understand she was wary giving a number out in a cold approach since she was young. but her first response looked promising so I was surprised she deleted me, I guess she changed her mind or was creeped out.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

Read more...

crazyboy

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Mar 7, 2011
Messages
236
Reaction score
11
With girl of her age you better up straight asking her to go out with you somewhere.
 

pete101

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 21, 2006
Messages
1,030
Reaction score
8
crazyboy said:
With girl of her age you better up straight asking her to go out with you somewhere.
She couldn't, she was about to meet her parents for dinner.

It turns out we were from similar areas in town though I live elsewhere and we used to take the same train line so i made jokes about how long it takes to get into town etc. i mentioned that us meeting up i'd choose somewhere at (specific location on the train line) and she agreed. the only error i made was asking if she had brothers/sisters.. she said she had an older brother.. i said 'is he overprotective of you?' she said 'yeah' i said.. ohh u better keep me a secret from him then' she didn't react well to that. that's the only thing i can think of from her reaction that would indicate her being a little creeped out but everything else was perfect so i was very surprised.

Was my 2nd line really that bad? maybe it was the fact i wrote another line to correct my spelling error, may have looked like i wrote the line then when she didn't reply corrected the spelling error.

maybe i could have gone down a different route and simply just asked what she did?
 

crazyboy

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Mar 7, 2011
Messages
236
Reaction score
11
She didn't have to go right then and there just pick a date and time when you text her. Yes you probably scared her away with your text. She probably wasn't really interested. Because if she thought you were cute you would have got her number. Not that blackberry messegner crap. I have never heard that in my life to be for real. The older brother thing all you have to say thats cool you got someone that always got your back. The line irrelavant if she like you, you could ask her to send pic to your phone and she most likely would. But all in all you just struck out. Its a number game not every woman in the world going to like you. Just go after another one.
 

pete101

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 21, 2006
Messages
1,030
Reaction score
8
crazyboy said:
She didn't have to go right then and there just pick a date and time when you text her. Yes you probably scared her away with your text. She probably wasn't really interested. Because if she thought you were cute you would have got her number. Not that blackberry messegner crap. I have never heard that in my life to be for real. The older brother thing all you have to say thats cool you got someone that always got your back. The line irrelavant if she like you, you could ask her to send pic to your phone and she most likely would. But all in all you just struck out. Its a number game not every woman in the world going to like you. Just go after another one.
yeah i dont think she was physically attracted to me but i did make her feel attraction if only temporarily. but is it understandable she didn't want to give her number out cos it's a cold approach in the supermarket and im a complete stranger?

it just seems like her not wanting to give a number out is understandable for a complete cold approach and the blackberry messenger thing is risk free option for that.

I really dont know why she'd be creeped out by my 2nd message.. reading it back it seems ok, maybe a bit too complimentary supplicating but nothing creepy about it. I was worried that because shes younger than me that 'older pervert guy' thing would cross her mind.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

Read more...

Top