I was just listening to a few of his tunes and got to thinking. That guy is a pretty fascinating person to try and figure out how he became what he was. On one hand, when he was on stage, he was the ultimate alpha. How much more alpha can you be when women are literally fainting when you walk out on stage and when you can simply stand in front of the superbowl frozen like a robot for minutes on end and people are going wild just from that alone. It just doesn't get any higher in desirability from females than that. At the same time, in his personal life, he was an extreme AFC. He admitted that he didn't have sex until age 32. The guy that made Thriller and could've banged any woman on the planet was STILL a virgin. He was "just friends" with Brooke Shields who he brought along as his "date" to social events, but never actually did anything with her. He slept with boys in his bed instead of hot women which he could easily have had. I wonder if he was a case of AFCism in it's most extreme form, that even having megastar status couldn't get him laid. And the women he did end up laying, like Debbie Rowe and Lisa Presley aren't much to speak of in the looks department.
Was Michael Jackson the ultimate AFC?
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As someone here said on an earlier thread, MJ was a 12 year old boy trapped in a gay man's body.
Confirmed by The Onion:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/king_of_pop_dead_at_12
Confirmed by The Onion:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/king_of_pop_dead_at_12
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ridiculous topic. The ultimate AFC is fat, ugly and stuck in his parents basement and sure as hell isn't regarded as the 'king of pop'. I probably couldn't give half a **** about women if I were a living legend.
He did it by choice. Therefore he was not an afc. weirdo? absolutely. AFC? no. He wasnt average, he wasnt frustrated by women, and he wasnt a chump. He was just a weirdo, who chose not to game chicks for whatever reason.
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He was a Jehovahs Witness they aren't allowed to have pre marital sex. If he took the religion seriously that explains his weird behavior.
I dated one girl who is a Jehovahs Witness and she is a complete psycho. That religion messes people up it's like a cult.
I dated one girl who is a Jehovahs Witness and she is a complete psycho. That religion messes people up it's like a cult.
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From what I've read about him the man had a twisted upbringing. His father would beat him as a child when he didn't perform well on stage, took all of his money, etc. with teh craziness.speakeasy said:
Basically it turned him into a head case.
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Thats what he was, & I loved him when I grew up.
Definitly not AFC.
Thats what he was, & I loved him when I grew up.
Definitly not AFC.
These have been debunked. The man never laid a finger on those kids, and all the opinions you can come up with is insignificant to the trial he underwent before a jury. A judge and jury found him completely innocent of the charges. Not only that, but one of the accusers were known extortionists.speakeasy said:
The man was psychologically messed up. He was completely underdeveloped from his childhood. The Jackson 5 ring any bells? Dude started in showbiz when he was a kid, so really I can empathize with his behavior. It doesn't make it right, but it does explain some.
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I don't think he was gay and after watching him get interviewed by the cop I don't think he was a child molestor either.
He was not squirming as the video title states he thought the questions were absolutely ridiculous and he was trying not to laugh because they were so ridiculous because he himself being an abused child would never abuse another child in a different way.
Though yeah the hanging out with kids and skin color change (whatever you believe about that) irreparably damaged his reputation because it was just too much suspicious weirdness for most to even begin to understand or want to even try and understand.
I agree with the poster before me that I believe Michael was asexual which means not interested sexually in men or women.
And no I don't believe he had sex with anyone, not Lisa Marie and certainly not the disgusting Debbie Rowe.
Most non thinking reactionary tards who hate thinking and hate those that do not immediately conform to certain comfortably familiar standards of conduct rush to label such people as gay or closeted gay when nothing could be further from the truth as asexuality in humans is completely normal albeit not widespread.
Also obviously he had issues from being beaten as a child by his sociopath father and yes I believe Joe Jackson is an actual Anti Social Personality Disordered individual like Casey Anthony or Ted Bundy.
Anyway from being kept from having a normal childhood this gave Michael the Peter Pan complex among other phobias and mental oddities we saw him express.
He was both a tragedy and a triumph, its interesting to think of what kind of man he would've turned out to be had he been raised in a sane family.
Oh and I don't think he was an AFC or an Alpha male.
He was something in the middle of that and it is why he was found to be so charming for so long by so many people.
As an idol of innocence for so long at least until the child molestation allegations started people could look at him as a pure role model and not something with the ugliness and familiarity of themselves and their own base desires inside.
Anyway his lyrics for Billie Jean were certainly alpha...
"Billie Jean is not my lover, she's just a girl who claims that I am the one, but the kid is not my son."
Thats song lyrics for the Maury Show hehehe.
He was not squirming as the video title states he thought the questions were absolutely ridiculous and he was trying not to laugh because they were so ridiculous because he himself being an abused child would never abuse another child in a different way.
Though yeah the hanging out with kids and skin color change (whatever you believe about that) irreparably damaged his reputation because it was just too much suspicious weirdness for most to even begin to understand or want to even try and understand.
I agree with the poster before me that I believe Michael was asexual which means not interested sexually in men or women.
And no I don't believe he had sex with anyone, not Lisa Marie and certainly not the disgusting Debbie Rowe.
Most non thinking reactionary tards who hate thinking and hate those that do not immediately conform to certain comfortably familiar standards of conduct rush to label such people as gay or closeted gay when nothing could be further from the truth as asexuality in humans is completely normal albeit not widespread.
Also obviously he had issues from being beaten as a child by his sociopath father and yes I believe Joe Jackson is an actual Anti Social Personality Disordered individual like Casey Anthony or Ted Bundy.
Anyway from being kept from having a normal childhood this gave Michael the Peter Pan complex among other phobias and mental oddities we saw him express.
He was both a tragedy and a triumph, its interesting to think of what kind of man he would've turned out to be had he been raised in a sane family.
Oh and I don't think he was an AFC or an Alpha male.
He was something in the middle of that and it is why he was found to be so charming for so long by so many people.
As an idol of innocence for so long at least until the child molestation allegations started people could look at him as a pure role model and not something with the ugliness and familiarity of themselves and their own base desires inside.
Anyway his lyrics for Billie Jean were certainly alpha...
"Billie Jean is not my lover, she's just a girl who claims that I am the one, but the kid is not my son."
Thats song lyrics for the Maury Show hehehe.
I didn't say he molested those boys, I just said he slept in the bed with them. He admitted that much himself. I don't know whether he molested them or not, I agree with you, he wasn't convicted of anything so I leave it at that. But even still, having boys in your bed and telling people they can't come in as some weird ass behavior. If I had that money and fame, I'd have HB10s locked up in that room all day.Alle_Gory said:
Yes you did. Then you said, he could have been sleeping with women instead. Of course I assumed you mean fvcking instead of sleeping.speakeasy said:
Looked pretty asexual based on his appearance. Doesn't he have kids???KontrollerX said:
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"Looked pretty asexual based on his appearance. Doesn't he have kids???"
Yep but they have done tests revealing the kids are not biologically his.
No surprise there.
Yep but they have done tests revealing the kids are not biologically his.
No surprise there.
Michael was, at the very least, likely bisexual. It's amazing to me that people try to claim otherwise. If this behavior was in any other person they would be calling him gay. What about him has EVER screamed straight?
Anyway, I also think he had "inappropriate relations" with at least 3 children, maybe more. If I was on a jury I might vote not guilty because the evidence is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" but I'm 75% sure if you want a numerical representation. I also believe this was a function of a mental disease or a dozen that he may have had. Psychiatrists called him a repressed 10 year old. And a lot of the behavior (giving kids porn, asking them if they masterbate) seems like the behavior of a gay 10 year old.
So no, he wasn't an AFC. He was a severely disturbed genius. AFCs aren't severely disturbed and they aren't geniuses.
Anyway, I also think he had "inappropriate relations" with at least 3 children, maybe more. If I was on a jury I might vote not guilty because the evidence is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" but I'm 75% sure if you want a numerical representation. I also believe this was a function of a mental disease or a dozen that he may have had. Psychiatrists called him a repressed 10 year old. And a lot of the behavior (giving kids porn, asking them if they masterbate) seems like the behavior of a gay 10 year old.
So no, he wasn't an AFC. He was a severely disturbed genius. AFCs aren't severely disturbed and they aren't geniuses.
Asexual seems to make sense to me. There are people in the world that have no sexual desire whatsoever. I think MJ was one of them. It makes perfect sense. And it also explains why he found nothing wrong with having kids in his bed. I dont understand why he never announced his asexuality though.
Michael Jackson showed Corey Feldman pornography when he was a "young teenager." He didn't molest him.speakeasy said:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1496823/20050210/jackson_michael.jhtml
Terry George, a gay British businessman, who was one of Michael's child friends a long time ago, talked about Michael's phone calls regarding masterbation.'
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news...-was-wrong-but-i-forgive-him-115875-21476871/
Like I said, this follows a pattern more of a bisexual man acting like a curious kid still deciding who he was going to be sexually. I think it may have gone further with other children. Where's there's smoke...