"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Wants V.S Needs

Chosen1

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I never really realized that there was a big difference in what people want in a partner v.s What they needed. I'm currently doing a type of phone counseling to get my mind right after my divorce. I have been kind of messed up in the head can't think some times and depressed. I realize now that what I thought I wanted in women is what I needed and vice versa. Example: I need a women who is nice loyal fun and has something going for her. I want a women who is a freak in the bed. That will tattoo my name on her breast. That will let me do what I want when I want.

I guess women don't realize this either. When you ask them what they want in a man they say. Some one that is kind who can protect me blah blah blah. That is what they need not what they want. They might want a guy who can keep them in control. Who knows how to live (party) etc. I'm not a big time seducer (I want to be) but I think I will start asking women what they want in a man and what they need there is a big difference. Well I hope I didn't ramble on to much, discuss
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I think people tend to want what they can't have. This applies for both sexes.

I think needs are often related to childhood experiences, ie our first relationship with the opposite sex, a parent.

I think woman never mean what they say, so asking them their wants and needs won't be useful.

But like I said, needs tend to be formed at an early age. So if you want to understand a woman's needs, find out about her childhood and relationship with her father.
 

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Women are utterly incapable of articulating what they are attracted to.

I once saw a great commercial where this girl is talking on the phone with her friend while she's waiting for her blind date to arrive.

"I hope he's not into trying to look cool."

Cut to the guy walking out of his house all dressed up and putting on his sunglasses.

"I don't want him to be materialistic."

Cut to a longer shot of the guy and his huge house. Cut to medium shot of him getting into his black, expensive sports car.

"He has to be sensitive and care about nature."

Cut to the car screaming down the road and destroying some flowers along the side of the road.

"I've got to go... He's here!"

Cut to her answering the door and obviously becoming instantly attracted to him.

I wish I could get a copy of that because it perfectly illustrates my point, that what women think they want is entirely different from what they actually want, and finding one who isn't this way is virtually impossible.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
Women are utterly incapable of articulating what they are attracted to.

I once saw a great commercial where this girl is talking on the phone with her friend while she's waiting for her blind date to arrive.

"I hope he's not into trying to look cool."

Cut to the guy walking out of his house all dressed up and putting on his sunglasses.

"I don't want him to be materialistic."

Cut to a longer shot of the guy and his huge house. Cut to medium shot of him getting into his black, expensive sports car.

"He has to be sensitive and care about nature."

Cut to the car screaming down the road and destroying some flowers along the side of the road.

"I've got to go... He's here!"

Cut to her answering the door and obviously becoming instantly attracted to him.

I wish I could get a copy of that because it perfectly illustrates my point, that what women think they want is entirely different from what they actually want, and finding one who isn't this way is virtually impossible.
That's the funniest thing I ever heard. Here's the thing. I like this girl who likes to party a lot. That ain't me so I'm just gonna let her know. Do what you want when you want but, I'm gonna do what I do. She says she doesn't like bad boys but that's what she wants but not what she needs.
 
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