So about two weeks ago my job had me run up to Office Max to get a ink cartridge. There was this very cute girl working the cash register. She asked me about my job and I asked how she liked hers and it just seemed like there was something there. I went in again last week just to buy an item as an excuse to talk to her again. This time they were pretty busy though and all I could really do was say hello and ask her how she was. She seemed kind of nervous actually. Maybe she likes me? I want to go in again tomorrow and just say something like, "So what do you like to do when you're not working?" To let her know I'm interested...then get her number. Good idea?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Want to ask this girl out tomorrow possibly..
- Thread starter Rhino22
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Just go in there have some small talk then ask her if she's single and if so you'd like her number. Study her reaction forget about your interest level in her...does she hand it over with enthusiasm e.g "great here you go I'm free next thursday evening and I love thai food" 
Also dont take it personally if she doesn't seem interested. I've walked up to girls I knew after summoning courage for a good 1hr or so then have them laugh at me. Can hurt...but the quicker you get it over and done with the better. Because even if they turn you down they know that internally you've had a small victory and they will respect you.
Also dont take it personally if she doesn't seem interested. I've walked up to girls I knew after summoning courage for a good 1hr or so then have them laugh at me. Can hurt...but the quicker you get it over and done with the better. Because even if they turn you down they know that internally you've had a small victory and they will respect you."You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Pimp-sicle
Master Don Juan
Rhino22 said:
Your thinking too much and your going to make this a bigger deal than it really is in your head.
Cruise in there, by a couple items and then go for the close. Go when you have some time preferably so you can time your way to the register when its not busy.
Be direct, be confident and you'll be fine.
Remember a number doesn't really tell you much, her going out with you says she's interested.
PIMP
Ah so I went in there today and it was awkward. I said hello how are you and she said good how are you. She saw my scrubs (I am a vet assistant) and asked me if I do surgerys. I said I help with them. Then I asked her what she liked to do when she wasn't working and she tells me she is an artist. "Oh, what kind of work do you do?" SHe tells me "Everything...painting, clay, etc." She asks me what I do and I tell her a musician and she say's oh that's cool you're an artist too. Then I say, "You should show me your work sometime." She goes, "Yeah, I could bring some stuff in sometime" I go, "We should hang out sometime." She goes, "I do have a fiance but I need to get out more." I just cut it after that and said ok have a nice day and walked out. It was awkward too because everytime I asked her a question she answered real fast and kind of nervous like. I don't know if I came off nervous and that made her nervous or what. This is the second girl I have "approached" in a week and she is with a guy. And both girls I thought were into me.
Jack of Hearts
New Member
Don't look at it as having "bad luck" because the last two girls you approached are with guys. You should be proud that you had the courage to ask them in the first place. The fact that you asked is a victory itself. Not asking at all would have been much worse then being told that they have a boyfriend or a fiance. Be proud of what you have done and keep it up.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
Small talk. She was helping you save face and trying to not make you feel ackward for telling you she's taken. She didn't want to just say, "No, I can't, I have a fiance." She put it very nicely and went with the flow. This is not the first time she's told that to somebody shopping at Office Max. Might or not be true, but she knows how to respond to that request in a non-intimidating and diplomatic way. She took it ok, and didn't want you to feel bad for asking.Tiguere said:
Good job on both approaches. As you see, girls are usually nice and will try to let you escape with dignity when having to turn you down. Most of the ones you approach will react possitively, even when they are no available.