"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Want some opinions on this harsh pick up attempt(sorta long post)

Kirro

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So I'm at work. My manager & I enter one of our usual deep part of conversation after hours of sophomoric humour. He is called to the front for customer service, as usual I'm way ahead in my work so I slow down to a more relaxed pace. (I work in a retail store & my main job is stock)

I am then approached by a fat black chick(FG3) with some DBZ-esque hair & basic fall clothing, her light skinned, slim & cute friend(HB8) & some unattractive light skinned dude.

FG3: Hey, where's the [insert item name here]?
Me: *points up the aisle* somewhere over there *in casual tone*
FG3: You know you're good looking. *smiles*
Me: *unphased* you think so huh? Well thanks...*continues to work*
FG3: Riiiight.......*seems to take hint*
HB8: Do you have a girlfriend?
Me: Nope. *in my most monotone voice*

(They don't hear this)

HB8: You don't want to answer us?
Me: *getting slightly annoyed* No.
FG3: When's the last time you had sex?
Me: *slightly unnerved* that's personal.
FG3: *starts long monologue about her vagina*
Me: *dying inside*
HB8: I like your accent.
Me: <_< *sigh*
HB8: Are you puerto rican?
Me: No.
HB8: Jamaican?
Me: No Barbadian.
Unattractive dude: Oh you're Bajan?(nickname given to people of my country)
Me: That.
UD: I do my homework. *smiles*
Me: That's nice. *being condescending*
UG: Are you gay?
Me: No.
HB8: Can I get a hug?? *uses her cutest expression*
Me: *raises eyebrow* No.
HB8: *sad expression* howcome?
Me: I got this thing about my personal space.
HB8: *looks shocked & crushed*
UD: LOL. Good answer, I like this guy.

At this point they are distracted by something & I make my escape. Later on HB8 signals me from across the store to come to her, I ignore this & they finally leave.

Reason I didn't engage them or flirt or even show interest is that I was so focused on my work I wasn't in a sexual frame of mind, also I'm not attracted to fat girls & due to fat girl's boldness I was even more turned off. Also while this does happen from time to time it makes me suspicious as its not a very consistent occurrence.

Any thoughts? Anything you guys would have done differently? Any criticisms are also welcome.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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pipe007

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I dont know what kind of advise you need...

you had an HB8 interested in you, and you were feeling insecure, "not the right frame of mind" and you were cold to them

oh well.
 

Kirro

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Joe Stud said:
r u gonna nail the hb8?
Not gonna nail anybody.

pipe007 said:
I dont know what kind of advise you need...

you had an HB8 interested in you, and you were feeling insecure, "not the right frame of mind" and you were cold to them

oh well.
Not gonna deny the merit of this post. This thread is more about what you would've done in my situation moreso than giving me advice(although I welcome any other comments.)
 

Julius_Seizeher

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Yeah those bold fat girls are truly lost, aren't they?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Whenever a woman motions you to come over to her, never do it (I know you didn't, OP).

Instead, shake your head no, point to her first and then motion down to the floor in front of you, sending the implied message , "No, you come over here". That is dominance and you will appear more attractive.
 

zekko

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Whenever a woman motions you to come over to her, never do it (I know you didn't, OP).

Instead, shake your head no, point to her first and then motion down to the floor in front of you, sending the implied message , "No, you come over here". That is dominance and you will appear more attractive.
Lol, that sounds asinine, but I actually do this.
I agree it makes you appear more dominant.

When you were talking about pointing to the floor in front of you, I thought you were going to say tell her to get down on her knees.
:)
 
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