"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

Read more...

Voice determines who we're attracted to

Tornado2

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 22, 2005
Messages
55
Reaction score
0
It's true. Looks play a big part - Eyes, Lips, Smile, but the determining factor for attraction is the person's voice. They did a test and there was an article on BBC about it.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

Read more...

[DoN.2.Da.JUaN]

Don Juan
Joined
Jun 18, 2005
Messages
93
Reaction score
0
Age
38
link??

bodylanguage can determine wether a chick likes you but her voice?
 

The Juan and only

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 4, 2005
Messages
805
Reaction score
8
Age
38
Location
United Kingdom
I agree that a sexy voice can make you more attractive, but I don't think its the determining factor, which is what you seem to be implying/directly saying.

:rolleyes:
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

Read more...

wowiehowie

Banned
Joined
Oct 4, 2005
Messages
171
Reaction score
0
C'MON NOW, IT'S STRICTLY "INNER GAME"!!!!:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 

intha_burbz

Don Juan
Joined
Sep 23, 2005
Messages
35
Reaction score
0
Age
36
i agree strongly. me and my wingman picked up these hot girls and the hot girl kept asking me to talk. she said she loves my vioce. i have a deep voice. my wingman has a high pitched gay sounding voice. in fact i mentioned how my deep voice is deep and manly and his was high and girly man.
 

The Juan and only

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 4, 2005
Messages
805
Reaction score
8
Age
38
Location
United Kingdom
wowiehowie, you are a moron and a troll. shut up.

to quote myself from earlier:

"For someone who's so naive about women, its a good thing for you that you're probably homosexual"
 

ScrewIt

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 11, 2004
Messages
1,769
Reaction score
2
i read somewhere that deep voices are usually associated with tall height and dominance, which explains why it works.
 

mobius

Don Juan
Joined
Dec 2, 2005
Messages
37
Reaction score
0
Age
39
Location
Texas
Funny considering one of my friends in high school had a kinda gay sounding voice (he is straight) and the girls would clamor all over him.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

Chemistry

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 3, 2002
Messages
780
Reaction score
3
Location
International
Determining? Don't agree...

It can contribute and there will probably be exceptions when a REALLY sexy accent makes a girl melt or a totally f*cked up one kills your chances off with a certain girl [because remember it is subjective], but generally most of us will fall in the middle of the road accents which won't ever make or break a situation...

So you've got good game, but don't sound like the guy who voices the film trailers... :eek:
 

SamePendo

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 30, 2003
Messages
2,393
Reaction score
14
Location
At home
Didn't you use to post a big while ago?
 

DonJuanMonk

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 20, 2005
Messages
826
Reaction score
0
Location
CA
There is a lot of truth to this. Deep voice resonates with "Masculinity"

There's a difference between your stereotypical action hero speaking with a deep slow voice and the stereotypical nerd speaking rapidly with a higher pitch.

But it isn't the deep voice, usually those who are more comfortable with their identity tend to not have to speak faster nor speak in a higher pitch. I observed this quite well when I attended a weekend retreat with about a dozen people, and the single men there had one thing in common that exhibited weak masculinity.
 

john_1234

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 5, 2005
Messages
395
Reaction score
5
speaking of voice, i bet david d. could pick up women on his voice alone. he's a smoooooooooth talker. he has a deep and his pace is always on point. now that's a voice to model after
 

Chemistry

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 3, 2002
Messages
780
Reaction score
3
Location
International
Originally posted by SamePendo
Didn't you use to post a big while ago?
Yea... towards the back end of the Pook era if I remember correctly...

I've just been out and about refining my old skills and putting some of the skills learnt through my times here to good practical use... my how the board has degenerated into some Date Doctor forum, lol...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

Read more...

aftershock

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 30, 2004
Messages
727
Reaction score
4
Location
England
But what was also surprising was the men with low voices also have attractive faces.
But this makes me a little sceptical...maybe they voted for the men because they were good looking, not because of their voices...?

A manly voice is more attractive, but it's only one small part of the overall game.

I wish my voice was deeper. If I talk slowly its better though.
 

nishbuk

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 30, 2004
Messages
535
Reaction score
3
Location
MTL
Apparently none of you have heard Style talk...He's high pitched, squeaky, and dare I say, sounds like a homosexual. His voice is farthest from masculine.

All of these factors: looks, voice, haircut, body shape etc. can be overcome by solid game. That is the point of this site, and it's been proven over and over and over again. So what if some study says that "voice" is the most important factor in attraction. Whatever...Our game should trump it. And it can trump it if it's good enough.

Now granted it helps to have all factors on your side, but sorry, it's just not true that if you don't have an attractive voice, you're screwed. You're not if you're a DJ or PUA.
 

BrotherAP

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 31, 2005
Messages
722
Reaction score
5
Age
45
Location
Earth
Did you read the methodology of that study?


Ms Evans said: "I recorded a number of men speaking and also took photos of them.

'Potential mate'

"Men and women were asked to rate the voices on things like attractiveness, dominance, confidence, sexiness etc. They were then shown photos, separately, and asked to rate them.

"Both women and men rated deep voiced men more highly.
Where exactly did that say that a voice "determines" who we're attracted to?

The study didn't even compare how attractive the people with the voices were. It studied how attractive the VOICE was.

It didn't even touch on how (or if) that affects how attractive the girl finds the male in possession of said voice, or how that would influence her to give him a shot or not.
 

floydtheater07

Don Juan
Joined
Aug 15, 2005
Messages
114
Reaction score
1
Although I hardly agree that a person's voice is as important as this thread implies, trust me guys, if you have a good voice, it's a great asset.

I'm a skinny guy who doesn't visibly exude masculinity. But, and I must brag (though it isn't really bragging considering I didn't work to achieve it...), I have been blessed with a great masculine voice. Before it developed, people would laugh at my squeaky, feminine voice. Now, I have the voice of a stereotypical "late-night jazz disc jockey".


Girls adore it. Sometimes, when a teacher asks for someone to read out loud in class (if we are doing a play or something), girls request that I get chosen to read. They go crazy.


A powerful voice can go a long way.
 
Top