Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Virgins give advice on how to get laid?

Still_Skippin

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I am in disbelief that we actually have self-proclaimed virgins on this site, trying to give advice to everyone on how to be successful with women....am I crazy here, or is there something terribly wrong with that?

for example, we have this one young kid Snowdog, who has admitted to me that he is a virgin, yet he has a thread called "I am going to write a book, for all of you".......so, this is the blind leading the blind.......why is a virgin writing a book about being good with women and trying to make it sound like it is going to be such a good book?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=162518

I must be going crazy to be the only one to call him (or anyone else like him) out on his own shyt.........you simply cannot deny that if you are a virgin, you have no business giving out advice on how to get sex, let alone writing a whole BOOK about it!

Jesus Christ this forum is upside down!!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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SeymourCake

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So someone who had sex needs to write a book about it? Are we forgetting that we're humans and it's in our natural instinct to have sex? I'd take advice from a confident virgin who's good with talking to women over a rapper/rockstar's advice on how they **** women (because of their fame) and treat them like **** at the same time.
 

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It's not really about getting laid, he said it's about self-improvement. He can write a book if he wants to, he's free to do it and as far as I'm concerned, he did a world of things more than I have done in my ****ty life (and a lot more things than I'll likely ever do). Live and let live.
 

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I don't think that guy's "book" was about how to get laid, I think it was about how to get over your personal **** (inner game stuff). But maybe I'm wrong, I didn't read much of that thread.

I don't really agree with you though (though I'm sure you'd have some supporters like rescue mission). I think you should only give advice on something your familiar with. Guys who get rejected a lot should give advice on how to handle rejection (I'd think that lots of virgins would be experts on handling rejection). Guys who can get laid easily on cold approaching should give advice on how to get laid. Etc etc etc. I think you get the point, everyone can give some advice on dealing with women (unless they are hermits and don't even try with women).

But frankly I'm tired of the opinion on this board that if your a virgin then your worthless.
 

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Scion said:
But frankly I'm tired of the opinion on this board that if your a virgin then your worthless.
... and what exactly is your value as a virgin on a board designed primarily to get guys LAID?

Scion said:
Guys who get rejected a lot should give advice on how to handle rejection (I'd think that lots of virgins would be experts on handling rejection)
this is where your argument falls apart. If I'm an AFC that wants to improve his success with women, I don't need a virgin to tell me how to handle rejection. Instead I need a more experienced member who used to be in my same situation to tell me how to overcome rejection.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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SeymourCake said:
So someone who had sex needs to write a book about it? Are we forgetting that we're humans and it's in our natural instinct to have sex? I'd take advice from a confident virgin who's good with talking to women over a rapper/rockstar's advice on how they **** women (because of their fame) and treat them like **** at the same time.
You can't write a book about how to deliver in crunch time when you have never even been in the game. (Virgins are the guy who saw the OUTSIDE of the stadium as they rode by on the bus..)
 

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If his book chronicles his struggle from AFC to finally getting laid, then I see immense value in that. If he doesn't score then that would obviously severely hamper his credibility. If he throws that hot dog down the hallway then I will personally buy his book.
 

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Yeah, that's what they all say. ''I'm proud because I'm a virgin'', or ''I could have been laid hundreds off times but didn't want to''. Those are self-defence mechanismes at work here, ladies and gentlemen, because they don't want to be confronted with the ugly reality that they aren't capable of being laid.

Furthermore, I suspect most guys on this forum are virgins and probably all guys in this thread. Step outside and look around you. Guys who get laid don't look for signs of interest, don't neg, are not trying to be ****y/funny, don't act all sexual. They just live, they do so without any theory what so ever.

''Lack of game'' is just another self-defence mechanism. If you get rejected, you can always blame your game. You should've done this, or you should've done that...all this thinking about game theory is a denial of the fact that she isn't interested.

She's either interested or not interested. If she's interested, then it doesn't matter what you do, because she likes you, as long as you don't act like a social awkward retard. If she is not interested, no matter what you do, she's not interested. No need to right a f*cking book about it.
 

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J. Darko said:
Yeah, that's what they all say. ''I'm proud because I'm a virgin'', or ''I could have been laid hundreds off times but didn't want to''. Those are self-defence mechanismes at work here, ladies and gentlemen, because they don't want to be confronted with the ugly reality that they aren't capable of being laid.

Furthermore, I suspect most guys on this forum are virgins and probably all guys in this thread. Step outside and look around you. Guys who get laid don't look for signs of interest, don't neg, are not trying to be ****y/funny, don't act all sexual. They just live, they do so without any theory what so ever.

''Lack of game'' is just another self-defence mechanism. If you get rejected, you can always blame your game. You should've done this, or you should've done that...all this thinking about game theory is a denial of the fact that she isn't interested.

She's either interested or not interested. If she's interested, then it doesn't matter what you do, because she likes you, as long as you don't act like a social awkward retard. If she is not interested, no matter what you do, she's not interested. No need to right a f*cking book about it.


If you believe that, you don't have a reason to be here.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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all i have to say is that MNIN does a pretty shitty skip impersonation.
 

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J. Darko said:
Those are self-defence mechanismes at work here, ladies and gentlemen, because they don't want to be confronted with the ugly reality that they aren't capable of being laid by girls they consider to be hot.
There, I corrected that for you. I bet a lot of our in-house virgins will tell you they could have got laid, but I'm 100% sure it wasn't by hot girls.

J. Darko said:
She's either interested or not interested. If she's interested, then it doesn't matter what you do, because she likes you, as long as you don't act like a social awkward retard. If she is not interested, no matter what you do, she's not interested. No need to right a f*cking book about it.
that's way too black-and-white. So what happens if she's only marginally interested? what happens if she sorta likes you, but she also sorta likes that other guy at the bar? hundreds of books have been written on gaming for a reason, maybe you should read one?
 

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drak_ool said:
There, I corrected that for you. I bet a lot of our in-house virgins will tell you they could have got laid, but I'm 100% sure it wasn't by hot girls.



that's way too black-and-white. So what happens if she's only marginally interested? what happens if she sorta likes you, but she also sorta likes that other guy at the bar? hundreds of books have been written on gaming for a reason, maybe you should read one?
The sole purpose of those books is to complicate dating so self-proclaimed pick-up artists can make money out of desperate guys. Honestly, do you really think that Neil Strauss, Mystery, David Deangelo, Pook, Rollo Tomassi, or anybody cares wether you get laid or not? Even though guys like Pook or Rollo Tomassi don'tt make money out of their posts, they still do it for there own personal satisfaction. Their posts are just mental masturbation.

What happends if she's only marginally interested but also sorta likes that other guy at the bar? Nothing, because she's not interested enough. Can you make them interested? No, but that's a fairy tale you like to believe. That's why you are on this forum. That's why you get scammed by authors of pick-up books. It's like learning the techniques to get a six-pack in three weeks. You can't, but you want to believe.
 

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lol busted
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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J. Darko said:
What happends if she's only marginally interested but also sorta likes that other guy at the bar? Nothing, because she's not interested enough.
you, my friend, are living in fairy tale land. A girl sees two guys at the bar, she's sorta interested in both. She wants to get fvcked that night. one of the guys got game, the other doesn't. Who's gonna get the girl?

Game is not the cure to all your problems, but it will give you an advantage over guys who don't have any (or have less than you).
 

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drak_ool said:
you, my friend, are living in fairy tale land. A girl sees two guys at the bar, she's sorta interested in both. She wants to get fvcked that night. one of the guys got game, the other doesn't. Who's gonna get the girl?

Game is not the cure to all your problems, but it will give you an advantage over guys who don't have any (or have less than you).
Women don't have sex with a guy just because there is no better guy around. If she's just ''sorta'' interested neither of these guys will get sex and she leaves to find another bar full of guys.
 

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Didn't Rescue Mission post this exact thread !!!!! Why would someone post they exact same thing? I would think it'd stick out like a sore thumb...I know for a fact I recognize it cuz I've been following RM's threads--they're hilairous....
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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