"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Virgin, but says theres alot of other "things"

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About the girl i mentioend in my previous post, she said shes a virgin and she wants to wait for marriage, but she doesn't think its a big deal cuz there's "alot of other things u can do". Ok maybe i'm just really inexpereinced, but i can only think of a few, not alot. How kinky is this chick? I mean theirs, giving head, handjobs, 69? what else? She doesn't have a big chest so another thing is ruled out. I guess she just has alot of ways to do those first 2 things. Funny cuz she seems so goody goody and innocent.

Also, on the 3rd date she invited me to her place to watch movies. We made out on her couch. Should i have tried to take it to the next level. I normally would have without a doubt, but she said she was a virgin so i had no clue what was the right thing to do. Maybe i shoudla got a bit more physical then i did all i ddi was make out with her. No groping or nothin. If she invites me over again what should i do? If we're making out, and i grope a little, whats next with a virgin who will only do the "other stuff". I dont wana get smacked for trying to feel her up or anythign . waht do u guys suggest.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Ah, it's just some kind of ASD/LMR. Treat it as such, two steps forward, one back.

If her resistance is bullet proof, you next her, because you want to get laid and are not afraid to embrace that.
 

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SamePendo said:
Ah, it's just some kind of ASD/LMR. Treat it as such, two steps forward, one back.

If her resistance is bullet proof, you next her, because you want to get laid and are not afraid to embrace that.

What's ASD/LMR?
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Read the bible, go through a boot camp.
These acronyms could stand to be stickied somewhere on this forum. If they are, i havent found them yet.

I read the bible, recall a list of approximately 200 acronyms, and i'll confess right now i don't remember all 200 of them.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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azanon said:
These acronyms could stand to be stickied somewhere on this forum. If they are, i havent found them yet.

I read the bible, recall a list of approximately 200 acronyms, and i'll confess right now i don't remember all 200 of them.
So what happened when you searched the forum for the acronym?
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
So what happened when you searched the forum for the acronym?
Now there's something i want to do everytime i dont know an acronym. (sarcasm).

Most of the time, people just use said obscure acronyms and assume (incorrectly) that everyone knows them. So i'd probably end up going 5 pages deep, until i found a dispute thread like this one where someone finally pointed out that not everyone has memorized all 200 of them. Only AFCs probably know them all because how could you have much of a life if you had time to actually sit down and memorize them all.

Yes, i know AFC, but that ones a bit more common (also sarcasm).
 

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Here's the problem that most AFCs have. They want a quick fix, the immediate solution. They make little effort to search for a true solution. They give up and make excuses to justify their need for someone to lead them every step of the way to their success with women without putting any real effort into it themselves. That's why we get the same BS questions time and time again by the noobs.

It's not the questions aren't viable, just unnecessary because the majority have already been answered and a good portion of those that have not can be answered if only the substantiating text is read; but alas, we have people in this forum who won't perform a search to find the solution.

And by the way, none of this was said sarcastically. Everything was meant exactly as it was stated.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Here's the problem that most AFCs have. They want a quick fix, the immediate solution. They make little effort to search for a true solution. They give up and make excuses to justify their need for someone to lead them every step of the way to their success with women without putting any real effort into it themselves. That's why we get the same BS questions time and time again by the noobs.

It's not the questions aren't viable, just unnecessary because the majority have already been answered and a good portion of those that have not can be answered if only the substantiating text is read; but alas, we have people in this forum who won't perform a search to find the solution.

And by the way, none of this was said sarcastically. Everything was meant exactly as it was stated.
hey im bored at work right now, i just asked that question to learn. i dotn want a quick fix. this girl seems really into me, and i just wanna know wat to do as far as takin it to the next level phsycially. I'm not lazy. i dont look for the quick fix usually. i have been working out like a maniac for 4 months following a rouitne, i'm really startign to get cut, i didnt know muscle grew that fast. I read so much on working out. i drink whey powder, and eat great. I shopped alot for good clothes too, spent good money and time lookign for quality stuff. I go to a dermatogist cuz i got an acne prob and its almost cleared up, i follow the the look good all the time idea, so im always ready to approach a girl. I watch wat i eat, get my sleep, read newspapers and watch news to know whats goin on in the world. I started watchign sports i dont like, and always try to improve myself by learning soemthin new so i have alot to talk about. I am workin on a better career. I am very shy and always have been, thats the one thing i really gotta work on, ive slowly been trying to talk to random people.

As for this site, i go on at work cuz im bored as hell, and i thought mayeb u guys could help me with my question about feelin this girl up,lol. I didnt think i had to memorize 200 acronyms and join bootcamps and crap, Eventually sure i prob will on a rainy day. but i think my question was valid. Im jot that experienced with this stuff, and hey the girl invited me toher place and seems very interested in me, so im doin somethin right. I just wanted a specific question answered.
 
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