"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Very importand and a bit hard (all about desperation)

vivek59234

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Guys,

I have been going through DJ Bible... The game is all about not showing your desperation, attitude, self-esteem, confidence and a lot more...

I am a bit confused on desperation part...

I am very close with a gal... She likes me pretty much and we have been hanging around from a long time... I did have sex with her once... Also I have been a bit desperate with her for couple of days and may be she didn't like it and started avoiding me...

Now I suddenly stopped everything because I knew I was desperate... and the result was like she started calling me 3-4 times a day and I didn't reply at all...
I did once saying I am very busy and will call you later... and than I called her up late night but she didn't answer.... So I dropped a text saying "Gal I am free tomorrow and wanna meet you in the noon, so make yourself available".

What will happen now? what should I do?


This is confusing... what would've happened? Why didn't she answer my call? Will she meet me tomorrow? Shall I call her tomorrow just to confirm or what?
And if she won't call me tomorrow than??

I am very much confused with this one and this is a bit hard thing for me... From inside I wanna meet her and I am very desperate...

Please advise me on how to handle this issue....
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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No, she'll propably not meet you... Why? Cause she just wanted to know if you still like her after your avoidance... What did you do? You proved her you DO like her and you want to go out with her...

What you SHOULD have done?

You should have played it hard to get... You shouldn't have told her to go out the day tomorrow your phone call! Maybe after 3-4 days and would be a good idea to even cancel the date afterwards "cause something else occured"!!

Being the catch is what it matters, not proving her that you still want her!
 

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Right!!! so what should I do now ? Have I blown it up? Is there anyway that I can fix it again?
 

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I think it's difficult... Don't send her anything and just wait for her next move... If she do send you anything or call you play it right! Don't show her that you are desperate! Cause that what you did when you said about the day after... Say you could plan a date in the week and you don't really know when this will be, and that you'll call her back... Call her after 3-4 days and arrange a meeting for a day later on the week... I can't really find a good solution for this one... :/
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How about start talking to other girls. That's a start.
 

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1 simple question... from next time if I see a girl... How to be in her mind by not showing any desperation?

How often should I call her? And how often should I be available?

You guys say "wait for 3-4 days to fix the date" , won't it be too late? Won't she forget it?

And if we talk over phone, and she's totally over me than how should I talk? Shall I show her that I care for her?


This is damn confusing...
 

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vivek59234 said:
1 simple question... from next time if I see a girl... How to be in her mind by not showing any desperation?

How often should I call her? And how often should I be available?

You guys say "wait for 3-4 days to fix the date" , won't it be too late? Won't she forget it?

And if we talk over phone, and she's totally over me than how should I talk? Shall I show her that I care for her?


This is damn confusing...
It's not confusing at all. You need to relax. It's just girls we're talking about. Not nuclear bombs.

How don't you show desperation? By not being desperate. Understand that no matter how much like a girl, she's not THAT special. She's replaceable. You'll go through dozens before you find the girl you settle down with.
 

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This chick just called me up...

her: "I just saw your missed call and text".
Me: "M a bit sleepy... So what time are we meeting today?"
her: "I can't meet you today as it's Sunday".
Me: "Fine than I'll let you know next week if I am free".
She: "Ok, I am studying as exams are going on".
Me: "ya 5ne(in a sleepy tone)".
She: "even I'm sleepy now".
Me: "5ne than sleep bye"
She: "we'll talk in the evening".
Me: "lets c. bye".


Have I done the right thing? Now I am sure she is in to me and she might had a genuine prob. She doesnt want to leave me and she has few problems back at home...

Shall I talk to her normally when she calls? or shall I avoid her?
 

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vivek59234 said:
Shall I talk to her normally when she calls? or shall I avoid her?
You shall stop asking us ridiculous questions about this boring situation.

This girl can't even make time to hang out with you, and you're sitting around worrying about her. Move on. She's a lost cause. Go find a girl who is interested in you.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Mantis Toboggan said:
You shall stop asking us ridiculous questions about this boring situation.

This girl can't even make time to hang out with you, and you're sitting around worrying about her. Move on. She's a lost cause. Go find a girl who is interested in you.
/laugh

Just play it busy, talk normal like nothing has happened! If you arrange a date for later on that's cool, if you find yourself trying hard for it then next her...

I don't think there are lost cases out there...
 

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you really do sound desperate over her asking all these "what do i do next?" questions.
 

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Yes I did sound desperate...

She has been calling me again and again and I am sure she has feelings for me now... It's just that she was very much confused about past and she told me her problem very frankly... She never said she wants to leave me...


Now I am sure she wants me because she has been calling me so many times...
I think I should not be desperate anymore...

Thank you so much guys for your help and yes I have started seeing other gals as well...

I saw a new girl last night who is my friend's friend... we were having a booze party... I would say it was difficult for me to attract her...

We were 2 guys and 2 gals... the other guy is my best friend and the girl I am talking about is his friend but they call each other bros. and sis. So what should I do to get her attention?
 
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