Since it seems only logical that guys are in here due to breakups, and most feel alone, and pissed off...I thought it would be fun to create a thread where you guys can vent out your frustrations. Hearing other guys getting pissed off and bashing the opposite sex can be theraputic. Let's you know you aint the only one. hoping for some real honest from the heart no holds barred venting - say what u feel.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Vent if u have to...bash the opposite sex
- Thread starter Pakwah
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
T Money
Senior Don Juan
****ing *****es. Why you gotta always play games huh? We're not in 3rd grade anymore, just make up your damn mind! You know what I want and how I feel, I can't ****ing figure out what the **** you want. Make up your mind or don't waste my time...*****.
Ahh, I already feel better. Thanks.
Ahh, I already feel better. Thanks.
musclyjerk
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Oh man, don't get me started..
This one chick tore away a life-long friend of 15 years from our group and has reduced him to a loner and a broken man.
We reached out countless times to him but he was so low he felt he had to live with his descision to get with her and isolated himself, with help from her leading him astray and away from his true friends.
There was nothing we could do. He was under her spell as he was desperate when he first met her. She presented to him his ultimate girlfriend and future wife. It was all a fraud and we all knew it, but he couldn't see it. He does now, but he won't leave her and at this point he's burned his bridges with us.
She was the worst kind of woman you could possibly meet and even lied to her ex-boyfriend of 3 years about losing their baby - when in reality she aborted it. He still thinks she lost it and will never know or even acknowledge the truth if he was told - he still speaks to her too.. when she finds a use for him.
Sorry I'm not really bashing her - I'm all out of that with this chick. Been there, done that. I have no more anger left for her. I'll leave that to you guys upon hearing the story.
The Muscly Jerk
This one chick tore away a life-long friend of 15 years from our group and has reduced him to a loner and a broken man.
We reached out countless times to him but he was so low he felt he had to live with his descision to get with her and isolated himself, with help from her leading him astray and away from his true friends.
There was nothing we could do. He was under her spell as he was desperate when he first met her. She presented to him his ultimate girlfriend and future wife. It was all a fraud and we all knew it, but he couldn't see it. He does now, but he won't leave her and at this point he's burned his bridges with us.
She was the worst kind of woman you could possibly meet and even lied to her ex-boyfriend of 3 years about losing their baby - when in reality she aborted it. He still thinks she lost it and will never know or even acknowledge the truth if he was told - he still speaks to her too.. when she finds a use for him.
Sorry I'm not really bashing her - I'm all out of that with this chick. Been there, done that. I have no more anger left for her. I'll leave that to you guys upon hearing the story.
The Muscly Jerk
Docs
Banned
My vent...
...umm, being shallow. Stupid people don't know what they missing when they LJBF, haha. They find out later (and too late) it was a mistake.
...umm, being shallow. Stupid people don't know what they missing when they LJBF, haha. They find out later (and too late) it was a mistake.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Argh if hang out with me with my big mouth and ****iness and laugh nonstop don't come in my house at midnight drunk without being invited as we come home from the bar instead of getting in your own damn car and driving home and then reject me after telling me earlier in the week you're sorry for being so forward since you hadn't gotten laid in 7 months. Then don't get mad at me and send me a scathing email a few days later complaining about my big mouth telling me i'm mentally and emotionally immature because i sent your disrespectful whiny ass home with a "have a good night" which you translated into "get the **** out" with your puny barely functional female brain. AND SURE AS HELL don't include in the email that you "enjoy hanging out with" me in the same breath as you say "I think we have completely different senses of humor and what you think is socially acceptable, I do not and I'm sure its vice versa"... lol so many complaints yet you have a good time AND LAUGH ALL DAMN NIGHT ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE. god damn, you fvcking walking contradiction.
woo that was fun.
Ok one of my big complaints about women is that they act like little *****es then you're not the nicest in the world to them so you're the assh0le while they hold onto the belief that they did nothing wrong whatsoever that may have warranted your reaction to begin with. Hey b1tch, if you act like a lil snotty princess what do you want? I 'politely' and firmly told you to get out of my house for being a ***** for the latter half of the night as I don't allow that behavior in my presence let alone my house.
thanks!
woo that was fun.
Ok one of my big complaints about women is that they act like little *****es then you're not the nicest in the world to them so you're the assh0le while they hold onto the belief that they did nothing wrong whatsoever that may have warranted your reaction to begin with. Hey b1tch, if you act like a lil snotty princess what do you want? I 'politely' and firmly told you to get out of my house for being a ***** for the latter half of the night as I don't allow that behavior in my presence let alone my house.
thanks!
THE_ADDMAN
Master Don Juan
grr
Illogical. Impulsive. Immature. Irresponsible. Insensitive.
95% of a womans drama and problems, she created herself. then she calls her friends and cries about it. she usually makes it worse trying to solve it by herself. and why should she? everyone is so *****-whipped that they have no problem bending over backwards to help them. as a result, nothing ever changes.
These women date guys who ARE BAD FOR THEM, then cry when it doesnt work out (yes, we all know why they do it. its Don Juan 101. but its the fact that is a poor decision.) they push away people who genuinely care for them, and otherwise **** relationships up.
All the manipulation and games and power they want to gain. women always want the power, but they dont realize that when they get the power, the guy is no longer appealing to them. so in trying to gain control of her relationships, she self-sabotages them, which leads to her never being happy.
They do impulsive things. because they fail to think things through, they often do something which they later regret.
They are insensitive. they will cry and guilt and tear apart a man who hurts them. but should they ever hurt a man, they do it coldly. they have no idea how much they can hurt a guy. and most of the time, they dont give a ****. For such emotional creatures, they sure can be heartless.
For all this, they STILL have the audacity to think men are insensitive, incompetent, idiotic brutes, and the world would be much better if THEY were in charge.
whew, I feel better
Illogical. Impulsive. Immature. Irresponsible. Insensitive.
95% of a womans drama and problems, she created herself. then she calls her friends and cries about it. she usually makes it worse trying to solve it by herself. and why should she? everyone is so *****-whipped that they have no problem bending over backwards to help them. as a result, nothing ever changes.
These women date guys who ARE BAD FOR THEM, then cry when it doesnt work out (yes, we all know why they do it. its Don Juan 101. but its the fact that is a poor decision.) they push away people who genuinely care for them, and otherwise **** relationships up.
All the manipulation and games and power they want to gain. women always want the power, but they dont realize that when they get the power, the guy is no longer appealing to them. so in trying to gain control of her relationships, she self-sabotages them, which leads to her never being happy.
They do impulsive things. because they fail to think things through, they often do something which they later regret.
They are insensitive. they will cry and guilt and tear apart a man who hurts them. but should they ever hurt a man, they do it coldly. they have no idea how much they can hurt a guy. and most of the time, they dont give a ****. For such emotional creatures, they sure can be heartless.
For all this, they STILL have the audacity to think men are insensitive, incompetent, idiotic brutes, and the world would be much better if THEY were in charge.
whew, I feel better
one girl,she spends the night sleeping on me,gives me tons and tons of long hugs saying "i looooove you" ,i get a LITTLE bit keen,and bang i get ditched for 2 weeks,she finds out im interested in her,and i got abused like you wouldn't believe,not just by her,by her ***** friend as well who happens to be my ex gf..
they let you touch them,touch you,flirt with you,act hell keen
the second you seem interested,your gone.
i try SO hard to just think of her as a friend
they let you touch them,touch you,flirt with you,act hell keen
the second you seem interested,your gone.
i try SO hard to just think of her as a friend
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Last Man Standing
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The problem is that you guys take hors seriously!!!! STOP IT!!!!!
Ok, so finally, I meet a woman who hasn't completely flaked out. She goes out when I schedule something, she answers email, shows up on time, doesn't make lame excuses about not hanging out, any of that.Pakwah said:
I'm finally able to show a secure manly side of me. I'm doing a lot of things right, and now she's decided she wants friendship with all the men (yeah, right).
For all the work I've done on self improvement, I'm still being caught in the stupid friend zone. And now that it's the holiday season, the amount of finding great women is low. Most lately have been rather creepy (just ending my issues with a woman stalking me, for example), IMHO.
So I'm stuck "waiting" and having only one female interest (I hope not to get a case of oneitus; as she's the only quality woman I've met lately...), and I am doing a lot of the right things. And yet she feels no chemistry.
Yeesh. Finally a non creepy woman, and I'm doing some great things, and now she decides not to date.
Quiksilver
Master Don Juan
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I love chicks.
I love how all their decisions are completely retarded.
I love how they spend an hour putting make-up on and are still insecure about their looks.
I love how girls think they are pushing a guy's buttons but are completely wrapped around his finger.
I love how you can be mean to girls and they will love you for it.
I love that you can do anything, with confidence, and get girls.
I love the fact that they care about all of the useless things in life.
I love the fact that women believe they should be given leadership positions.
I love the fact that women have smaller brains than men.[Borat]
I love how the guys who act like chicks, get chicks.(argue with me)
I love how guys who look like chicks, get chicks.
I love how chicks have no respect for intellect.
I love how chicks are still at the mercy of their biology.
I love how chicks start trying to "win" you when they see you have a girlfriend.
I love chicks.
I love how all their decisions are completely retarded.
I love how they spend an hour putting make-up on and are still insecure about their looks.
I love how girls think they are pushing a guy's buttons but are completely wrapped around his finger.
I love how you can be mean to girls and they will love you for it.
I love that you can do anything, with confidence, and get girls.
I love the fact that they care about all of the useless things in life.
I love the fact that women believe they should be given leadership positions.
I love the fact that women have smaller brains than men.[Borat]
I love how the guys who act like chicks, get chicks.(argue with me)
I love how guys who look like chicks, get chicks.
I love how chicks have no respect for intellect.
I love how chicks are still at the mercy of their biology.
I love how chicks start trying to "win" you when they see you have a girlfriend.
I love chicks.
I'll add my own - though i am bit past the anger stage i can still try
thx for telling me one thing and doing another. thx for ****ing up what could have been a wonderful life and thx for putting your interests and priorities ahead of your own families. thanks for saying you are in love with me when really you should have just said that to my credit cards and wallet. thanks for only being nice to me when you wanted something, now its gone and again you sit there and wonder why your life is so ****ed up. say how you want just to be someones everything yet when you get it you push them away. i gave you years of my life so in the end i could get this bull****. thanks for taking advantage of my generosity. thanks for playing the stupid games, thanks for putting me aside while you stared and fell in love with tv celebrities you will never have. i love having to start over. i just love it. i put my heart on the line so you could stop on it and stab it and destroy it. thanks *****. after all i did for you, after all the **** you didnt do for me, here i still think of you, hoping that you could feel all i feel. i hope you are 40 and alone and think back to this very moment and realize that you had a chance at happiness and a family and threw it all away for some nights at the bar and some new friends. coming home every night...well 5 am saying what a horrible night it was...yet doing it all over again the next weekend...****ing drama queen. here's a tip, stop with the damn fake myspace life and look at your real one. stop living the words of mr.ripley and be a real somebody. i wasnt perfect, but i loved how you never gave us that chance.
thx for telling me one thing and doing another. thx for ****ing up what could have been a wonderful life and thx for putting your interests and priorities ahead of your own families. thanks for saying you are in love with me when really you should have just said that to my credit cards and wallet. thanks for only being nice to me when you wanted something, now its gone and again you sit there and wonder why your life is so ****ed up. say how you want just to be someones everything yet when you get it you push them away. i gave you years of my life so in the end i could get this bull****. thanks for taking advantage of my generosity. thanks for playing the stupid games, thanks for putting me aside while you stared and fell in love with tv celebrities you will never have. i love having to start over. i just love it. i put my heart on the line so you could stop on it and stab it and destroy it. thanks *****. after all i did for you, after all the **** you didnt do for me, here i still think of you, hoping that you could feel all i feel. i hope you are 40 and alone and think back to this very moment and realize that you had a chance at happiness and a family and threw it all away for some nights at the bar and some new friends. coming home every night...well 5 am saying what a horrible night it was...yet doing it all over again the next weekend...****ing drama queen. here's a tip, stop with the damn fake myspace life and look at your real one. stop living the words of mr.ripley and be a real somebody. i wasnt perfect, but i loved how you never gave us that chance.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
yeah its never your fault, always mine. i was too cheap with my money cuz i didnt let you take whatever you wanted when you wanted it. blaming me for your unhappiness...you tell me to be more assertive and when i do at you...you get pissy at me like im the jerk. im not your puppet on a string. im not an ******* and a jerk just cuz i wont do everything you tell me. whine and whine about something till i just gave in or else have to listen to you ***** all night. sit there saying 'you don't want to piss me off' like it was some kind of threat anymore. i loved how you never made time for me, i loved when i stopped becoming your best friend. i loved doing all the little things for you and getting nothing in return. i loved how you slept my birthday away, and didnt give two ****s. yet still told me....i love you....****ing lies. told you i knew something was up...telling me i was wrong...how stupid could i be? i cant always be wrong. always wanting your way, hope the next guy you meet sees right through that fake self and gives you a slap you so need.
I don't want to be your friend...stop acting like you want my friendship. You got another man in your life..you broke up with me for a reason. Why would you possilbly think i want to sit and watch you give your heart to someone else??