"Value" is an absurd mesurement

[Prodoge]

From what I have read here on SS, to be attractive to women you need to show that you have value (money, social proof, status).

Fair enough these traits will make you more attractive, however you can lie about your income, pretend you work in a higher position than you actually do.

I believe that value can not be demonstrated in your attitude. You only know if someone has value once you get to know them well.

For example a very good friend of mine is about 24 now and has been a contract worker since he was 18.

Now if someone asked him about his job, surely contract worker living with his parents at 24 is not impressive at all.

However, I know that he quit school and got a job because his parents were struggling to pay the loan for there house to support them.

To me that shows value. Being preparred to sacrifice your own futur to support your parents. Unless you knew his story, most likely you would put him down as low value, whereas he actually has probably more value than most people with some kind of status in there job or socisl circle.

Fair enough, demonstrating confidence while walking in a room because you have a good job and drive a nice car will get you the inital looks, but it wont ahow value.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

From what I have read here on SS, to be attractive to women you need to show that you have value (money, social proof, status).

Fair enough these traits will make you more attractive, however you can lie about your income, pretend you work in a higher position than you actually do.

I believe that value can not be demonstrated in your attitude. You only know if someone has value once you get to know them well.

For example a very good friend of mine is about 24 now and has been a contract worker since he was 18.

Now if someone asked him about his job, surely contract worker living with his parents at 24 is not impressive at all.

However, I know that he quit school and got a job because his parents were struggling to pay the loan for there house to support them.

To me that shows value. Being preparred to sacrifice your own futur to support your parents. Unless you knew his story, most likely you would put him down as low value, whereas he actually has probably more value than most people with some kind of status in there job or socisl circle.

Fair enough, demonstrating confidence while walking in a room because you have a good job and drive a nice car will get you the inital looks, but it wont ahow value.

Arrogance, brashness, and even humblebrags are all outward displays of insecurity. If you really are a top 3% man, that is to say a 7 figure net worth and/or superior genes that gave you a great look, you can pull that off. Otherwise, it comes off the wrong way. It may work on young college girls aged 19-25, but it wears thin quickly.

Rollo Tomassi once wrote an article called "Dijo Sin Hablar", which pretty much translates to "show it without speaking". Show your high value, don't shout about it from the rooftops.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

I like the title of the thread. A lot is said about value, and a lot of it is middle-class mediocrity.

Value is a very ambiguous and elusive idea for there would be no value without a value giver. The ego tries to build its own value up, the alter ego forever questions it.... Buddhism runs with this and turns it into a philosophy [not that I am a Buddhist.. it lacks a superstructure of belief]. It is very liberating to be unconcerned with your own value for you become one with your ontological self, or the psyche. Perhaps women find it attractive in a man when he seems unconcerned with something that they tend to obsess about.

 

[El Payaso]

To me that shows value. Being prepared to sacrifice your own future to support your parents. Unless you knew his story, most likely you would put him down as low value, whereas he actually has probably more value than most people with some kind of status in there job or social circle.

Here's the thing though, women don't care about that kind of "value". Yes, it sounds nice and feel good but women are inherently solipsistic. What they care about is what can you do for them and how good will you make them look to her friends.

It's nice that a man drops out of school to support his parents but side by side, the woman would rather go with the attractive doctor driving the Bimmer and owns a McMansion. That's ultimately the kind of value that gets most women wet.

 

[Trump]

Now if someone asked him about his job, surely contract worker living with his parents at 24 is not impressive at all.

However, I know that he quit school and got a job because his parents were struggling to pay the loan for there house to support them.

To me that shows value. Being preparred to sacrifice your own futur to support your parents. Unless you knew his story, most likely you would put him down as low value, whereas he actually has probably more value than most people with some kind of status in there job or socisl circle.

Fair enough, demonstrating confidence while walking in a room because you have a good job and drive a nice car will get you the inital looks, but it wont ahow value.

Bro you are confusing the issues.

Your friend is a stand up guy, working to support his parents. But being a 'stand up guy' and having 'value' to women are 2 completely separate things that have NOTHING to do with each other. Women could care less if you are stand up, if you are quality, if you do everything 'right'. That stuff is nice for them but it doesn't turn them on.

What turns them on? Money, novelty, power, sexiness, social value. You are an actor who brings people to watch your movies? Turns them on. You pay your taxes and support your parents and do everything society tells you to do to be liked? Nice but doesn't turn them on.

Brutal.