Value and confidence

[zekko]

How do you know what your value is?
How would you go about increasing your value?
Does confidence alone increase your value?
Do you even think you can significantly change your value?

Some of these questions are rhetorical, but the more I think about it the more everything seems to be about value. Seduction materials seem to suggest that confidence cures everything, that if you think you are higher value then *poof* you are. The funny thing is I actually believe that is true, to an extent, but I'm not quite sure what the extent is.

Apparently if you are confident with a girl, it sends a message and she will think you have value. But if she is high value herself, and finds that behind your confidence maybe there's not so much substantial value actually there, she's in for a disappointment, don't you think? I guess that's one reason why there's a focus here on self improvement. It amazes me that a girl can be high value solely because she is attractive.

Why do you think some people grow up with a lot of natural confidence while it is such a big stumbling block for others?

 

[SchoolBoy]

How do you know what your value is?
How would you go about increasing your value?
Does confidence alone increase your value?
Do you even think you can significantly change your value?

Some of these questions are rhetorical, but the more I think about it the more everything seems to be about value. Seduction materials seem to suggest that confidence cures everything, that if you think you are higher value then *poof* you are. The funny thing is I actually believe that is true, to an extent, but I'm not quite sure what the extent is.

Apparently if you are confident with a girl, it sends a message and she will think you have value. But if she is high value herself, and finds that behind your confidence maybe there's not so much substantial value actually there, she's in for a disappointment, don't you think? I guess that's one reason why there's a focus here on self improvement. It amazes me that a girl can be high value solely because she is attractive.

Why do you think some people grow up with a lot of natural confidence while it is such a big stumbling block for others?

You're value is decided by YOU which in turn is projected onto others.

To increase your value you must respect yourself, love yourself, put your needs above women, and ultimately be the best man you can be.

No confidence does not increase your value but has a direct correlation with value. The more value you place on yourself, the more confidence you will have.

You can always change/increase your value by first demonstrating value to yourself before it can be projected onto others. This means to take care of yourself ie. weight lifting, dental, hygiene etc. Have goals in life. Be independent. Do what makes YOU happy. etc..

Value itself is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you believe, you will then become. But in order for you to believe, you must make it happen. Make sense?

Some people are naturally unconfident due to many reasons. It could be the cause of childhood bullying, parental negligence, past traumatic events etc..

Women who believe they are high value because they are attractive feel that way because WE men give them that value. AFCs constantly put them on a pedestal due to their looks. which in turn causes them to believe they are actually high value.

 

[WC2]

Those who are 'naturally' confident aren't really 'born' with it.

While it may be possible from a psychological standpoint, most guys who are naturally confident seem this way because it's been made a habit.

Not only are they confident when they want to be, but when they aren't even trying to be. Habits.

Habits are what make you a person. If you sit on your computer at night 5x a week, that is who you are. If you go out and get wasted 5x a week, that's who you become.

If you are secure in yourself with everyone, that's who you will become.

 

[zekko]

Those who are 'naturally' confident aren't really 'born' with it.

While it may be possible from a psychological standpoint, most guys who are naturally confident seem this way because it's been made a habit.

I agree that if you practice being confident, you'll become more confident more consistently. However, I don't agree that some people aren't just naturally confident. I'm sure we've all gone to school with kids that are just naturally confident - they haven't had the time to practice it and probably didn't even realize it was important.

I still get tripped up on value though. A guy can be completely confident (IMO) but still have some value issues that could affect the level of girl he can get. Confidence will bump you up some on the value scale, but I don't see how having confidence automatically makes you a 10. Confidence seems like a great tool for getting a ONS with high value chick, but if you want to hang onto one, I think you're going to have to be able to back that confidence up with something.