Valentines Day Cards

Rollo Tomassi

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On Vagintine's Day

In the U.S. men spend on average $135 for Valentine's day - twice the average a woman spends on a man. Explain to me why women own V-Day? If it's a "celebration of romantic love" why should it be an annual sh!t test?

Tomorrow it will have been 11 years to the day that I proposed to Mrs. Tomassi (yes, this was back when I thought stuff like this made an actual difference), my Valentine's days now consist of Mrs. Tomassi meeting me at the door of the house I bought after coming home from work in a nice Fredericks of Hollywood getup with a couple martinis already shaken and chilled, with our daughter at her aunts house. Then, after we've gotten busy at least twice, I may suggest that we go off to a nice dinner or produce the roses I bought on the way home.

Women only turn b!tchy if this is the precedent you set for them in the beginning. They can also turn appreciative if this is the precedent you establish. Whenever you buy a woman a gift you ALWAYS communicate a subtext of compensation for something with a woman - even if this is the furthest thing from your intent.

Lets just clarify a few things about Vagintines Day since it's probably the most irksome manifestation of westernized/commercialized romanticism. V-Day is the epitome of female entitlement. On no occasion - even a woman's birhtday or her wedding anniversary - is this sense of entitlement more pronounced and our refined commercialization of this entitlement/expectation simply twists the knife in further for men to live up to this with ZERO expectation or entitlment to any reciprocation. He gets 'lucky' if his romantic offerings are sufficient to appease her media fueled expectations of 'good enough' to reward him with sex.

And exploit the media does. I can't get away from it; Every radio station, every TV show, every newspaper and magazine article. Go to askmen.com right now, I guarantee there's a "how not to fukk up this year's V-Day for her" article there.

I listened to a talk radio show that I regularly tune into on my drive home yesterday; it was about what not buy this year. "Don't buy lingerie, she knows it's really a gift for you" or "Don't pick up flowers at the gas station, women know they're cheap", and "God forbid you pick up some cheap jewlery or stop at one of those roadside urchins selling prepared flower baskets or arrangements - women know you didn't think about it until you were on the way home." On my way to work this morning, different show, same list.

Why wouldn't women have these expectiations? They're relentlessly marketed to as the primary consumers in western culture. V-Day isn't a celebration of romantic love, it's a machine that drives a wedge of expectation and entitlement in between otherwise happy, contented couples.

I'm not down on the idea of a special occasion to celebrate love (I actually proposed to Mrs. Tomassi on V-Day 11 years ago), I am down on the twisted expectations that have been perverted into it that puts a woman on some pedestal of entitlement (as if most aren't put there already by every AFC in western society) by commercialized popularization of this feminized ideal. Why isn't there an official "fukk your boyfriend like a wild animal" holiday or a list of criteria to meet that'll make his day special? "Show him how appreciative you are of all his dependability and hard work this year - buy some lingerie ON YOUR OWN and pretend that you like him cvming in your mouth on his special day!" If women are so liberated and interested in equality, one would think this would be the first thing to occur to them. We need a special day to make us appreciate each other?

This is why I say don't buy a woman a thing until your first wedding anniversary. It's gotten to a point where ANY gift given is perceived as an exchange or a negotiation of intimacy. It's about mutual appreciation - if she doesn't appreciate you in the first place, no gift is going to convince her otherwise.


For the single DJ on V-Day
Just as an aside here, Valentine's Day is ripe with opportunity for the DJ with the ability to see it. Go hit the clubs tomorrow night, particularly the ones that cater to a 25-40 y.o. affluent crowd. You'll notice impromptu GNOs (girl's night out) set up just for this occasion to prove to themselves "they don't need men to have a good time." A good PUA couldn't arrange a better opportunity to hook up in multiple sets.

Don't go play 'pity friend' with any girl on Valentine's. Call up your best wing man and sarge on the best night of the year to sarge. Wedding receptions aren't even as good as V-Day for this.
 

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I do agree with you (RT) about the damn Valentine Day.

I lost the card I bought (not making this out as I was looking for it this morning). Now, keep in mind, I have been more than nice when it comes to gifts as she and I are in a committed relationship (for over a year), so, I cannot be accused of being cheap. Especially from her. And I have a small gift that I bought a LONG time ago (several months) and stored it away. I know she bought me one too and has a card for me as she has been telling me about this all week long (I have said nothing).

But here is the thing...I'm going to do the "sh+t test" this time around. ;)

I am not going to give her any gift nor card tomorrow (I will wait until Thursday morning). I will simply TELL her "Happy St. Valentine". Of course, I might even imply that I have been very busy at work (truth) and was unable to get things rolling. In a nutshell, she is going to think that I got her nothing (although, I will provide her tenderness and cuddleling and sex and the "Happy St. Valentine").

I want to see how she reacts to that.

It is up to her to either past or fail the test. I know women like to brag to other women based on what their men give them. I want to see if she is an "understanding" (e.g. I was very busy working) woman. Especially, when my career is very important to me.

Now, I can do that kind of test as this is NOT a marriage (with my ex-wife, I had no worries as she was not that huge into this kind of events either) and it is a LTR. One that has lasted over a year. One that I'm not too sure will last an eternity or even evolve into a marriage or even a "living together".
 

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Shezz said:
MORAL: Do something nice for someone, make them feel special in your presence!
I'm with you on this one; especially if she's giving out the candy.

To not get a woman you're in a LTR with for V-day is cruel. Her friends will ask her what her man gave her, and I can assure you a woman's attraction will not go up because you didn't get her anything. I'm not sure how one would interpret the "test" results either, since if you ask me, passing the test would constitute her being hurt because her man was cruel and thoughtless.
 

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azanon said:
I'm with you on this one; especially if she's giving out the candy.

To not get a woman you're in a LTR with for V-day is cruel. Her friends will ask her what her man gave her, and I can assure you a woman's attraction will not go up because you didn't get her anything. I'm not sure how one would interpret the "test" results either, since if you ask me, passing the test would constitute her being hurt because her man was cruel and thoughtless.
But...if the man has PROVEN several times (as past St. Valentine day, "Anniversary", Birthday, Christmass, and "just because" days) that he is very generous and thoughful...and he SIMPLY did not have time (due to work commitments) to get her something JUST this time around...then that is more than a valid test.

It is not cruel. It is in fact, smart. Especially when we are the ones LOSING in marriage.

Cruel would be marrying a woman that has zero tolerance and understanding that some men have careers and responsibilities that can affect the life of others. Maybe we might not have those responsibilities now...but we can have them 3 or 5 years from now. Cruel would also be ALWAYS blatantly neglecting a woman.

It is more than a valid test...as ANYONE can show "perfection" when things go their way. Test them under "adversity".
 

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Another thing...I don't care what her friends ask. They are not phucking me...they are not sucking me...and they are not taking care of me.

And even if they were doing all those things...I still would not care as they are irrelevant in the kind of decisions I make in my life.
 

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Latinoman said:
Another thing...I don't care what her friends ask. They are not phucking me...they are not sucking me...and they are not taking care of me.

And even if they were doing all those things...I still would not care as they are irrelevant in the kind of decisions I make in my life.
Unfortunately things don't work that way.

I know from experience that a woman's friends can be your best friend OR your worst enemy. If you don't at least show a little thoughtfulness on Vday when you are in a long term, committed relationship, you might as well buy her a little devil that sits on her shoulder several hours every week reminding her of what an a$$hole you are.

Here's my take on Vday. If you are with the RIGHT woman, there's no reason not to do a little something special for her. That doesn't mean you go out and buy her expensive jewelry or a new car or anything like that. It means that you show that you are a thoughtful person (that's the main thing they care about anyway) and enjoy spending some time with her. If you are with the RIGHT woman (as in Rollo's case) you should get back at least as much as you give. If she is the WRONG woman, well, you know the answer to that.
 

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I see a moneymaking opportunity here ...
 

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STR8UP said:
Unfortunately things don't work that way.

I know from experience that a woman's friends can be your best friend OR your worst enemy. If you don't at least show a little thoughtfulness on Vday when you are in a long term, committed relationship, you might as well buy her a little devil that sits on her shoulder several hours every week reminding her of what an a$$hole you are.
If her friends influence her NOW...and if they excercise a stronger influence than the man that is in her life (for months or years) then those same friends are going to influence her YEARS into the future. Even after marriage.

I don't want to marry a woman like that. It would be FOOLISH. And the sooner we know that characteristic about a woman...the better.


Here's my take on Vday. If you are with the RIGHT woman, there's no reason not to do a little something special for her.
How do you know you are with the right woman? ANYONE can be the "right woman" when things go smooth. Add the element of "rough times" and then you will see her TRUE self. In marriage we constantly face "rough times" due to our careers ("honey, I will have to miss the kids recital because I have to work late today) or other important issues. However, in marriage...we have a LOT more at stake.

That doesn't mean you go out and buy her expensive jewelry or a new car or anything like that. It means that you show that you are a thoughtful person (that's the main thing they care about anyway) and enjoy spending some time with her. If you are with the RIGHT woman (as in Rollo's case) you should get back at least as much as you give. If she is the WRONG woman, well, you know the answer to that.
The issue here is SOCIETY and COMMERCIALISM should not force any man into "thoughfulness". And that is what St. Valentine is. I true thoughful man will do the right thing during "just because" scenarios. For instance, she has a rough time at work...and you surprise her with somethng special (maybe flowers or a special lunch, depending on the relationship). THAT is thoughfulness.

But there are times in life in which we will have to do things that require to sacrifice the "Anniversary Day" or the "St. Valentine Day" or even the "Mother's Day". We are men..and sometimes we are required (due to our professions, even in the future) to make hard decisions. And we MUST have a woman is understanding. Especially when her man has ALWAYS been there and only "missed the ball" ONCE. And it was due to "unforeseen reasons". If she cannot see that...then she is selfish. And literally...NOT a marriage material.

At 38 and with a 6 salary figure and a homeowner and couple of vehicles...I have a LOT to loose if I decide to remarry and pick the wrong woman.
 
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