"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I was reading the "Turning Platonic Friends into Lovers Using Jealousy" post on sosuave.com what do you all think about this, i feel this guy has a very powerful point.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Give us a couple of key points you would like to discuss about the article...
 

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The points i would like to discuss would be how to turn a friend into something more using it. And how to not go over the top and make her think your desperate for any other girls.
 

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Is this girl interested or has she rejected you? What time span are you talking about?

Flirt with other women in her presence or ganji.
 

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It works. An afc friend of mine has a girlfriend becaus he used jealousy to his advantage;)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ganji works the best when attempting to turn a friend into a g/f although it takes time.

but nothing will work if she already rejected you. rejection meaning she said no to your advances
 

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It depends on the situation. If she actually already has romantic feelings for you and you purposely try to make her jealous you will hurt her and it will likely have the opposite effect of what you want.
 

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i'm half trying this right now..

rightly or wrongly i guess i'm experimenting with using jealousy, and if i take it further it will probably have a bad effect on 2 girls..
heres a quick back story..

HB9.. really hot, we've been friends for about 4 months, gone out to clubs and things a few times over that time.. prob seen her about 6-7 times.. never made a move, hence never been rejected.. but HEAPS of kino and flirting etc. she calls me to go out, not me calling her. so she seems interested, but then when i'm out she flirts with other guys so much, she's a real attention *****.. but i haven't seen her kissing any of them.

so on thursday night i went out with a couple of friends, and bumped into HB9.. she was with a few friends and they invited us to a party for saturday night. one of her friends who i had met, but didn't know said to HB9s best friend about how hot i was and HB9s best friend was trying to set me up with her. but i said "i'm not a peice of meat, she's good looking, but i won't to talk to her a bit first" - didn't kiss her that night.

at the party on saturday night i did hook up with the girl who said i was hot, but it was pretty awkward, there was a doofus there who was very protective of her and would apparantly belt me up if he saw me kissing her. but i did anyway.. and HB9 came into the room i was in and said something like "thats really great that you two have hooked up." and then walked away before we had time to speak.. was strange..
also had big chat with HB9s best friend, she was asking me questions like "did u think u'd hook up with HB 9 when we first met?" and i said i was attracted to her, and thought that i would, but then after getting to know her i realised she was just seeking attention from all guys, and playing games. and that wasn't my thing.

knowing girls talk - i realise she'll tell HB9 this, which i'm thinking will make HB9 try harder to show that she's not like that..? whether i'm right or wrong, this is a good learning experience, and i'll let u know how it goes..
 

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Wildside .. if there was never any attraction to you .. there never will be. If there is no attraction, that's how you end up in the friends zone. You can't make her attracted to you no matter how much you try. It's a complete waste of your time.
 

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Remember your first love and how you felt about her? How you would die for her and were destined to be together? And then a different girl came around and you eventually forget the 1st girl? By doing silly ganji games and trying to make girls jealous, you are not allowing yourself to move on. This way you can actually go after new girls and forget about the one that got away, and if she happens to get jealous...so be it. You can decide whether to keep her or throw her away on your conditions, she had the chance and didn't get with the program so she has to take a back burner.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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