"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Using an HB9 as wingman for new years?

lightofhatred

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Hey; me and this HB9 are going to this massive beach for NY's, it's TONS of strangers/sluts etc.

How do I use an HB9 (FRIENDS only; she has a boyfriend and is very loyal to him, good girl, but he aint coming :p) to get chicks? I"m thinking of just talking to random ppl with her and keeping her as a "comfort" object sorta?

Or does anyone have any tips? Thanks
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ease

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You'll do 10 times better with a male friend with some game.
 

Mike32ct

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It depends how outgoing she is. If she's very outgoing, she can open the girl or group of girls for you.

If she is less outgoing, bring her with you when you approach. Early in the conversation, say that you two are coworkers. Saying you are friends might or might not work since it could mean you are FBs.

This way, you are just two friendly colleages being social. It's like an extended happy hour of sorts. With a HB9 by your side, b@tch shields should be rare.

I'm not a big fan of the wingMAN method. Very few guys make good wings. The guy is either an AFC that hurts your game/status or the guy is really smooth and/or good looking and steals the attention of BOTH girls.
 

lightofhatred

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I've got a plan
How about the "Apocalypse approach" and just walking up to random party sluts for sex?
Sounds good to me. Anyone see any flaws? I'm starting to think that seems like an insanely good idea
 

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First. Let her know that you will be going out to "have fun and meet people". Already set the frame before you go. That way its no natural girl on girl competition coming from her end.

Always send her to go get drinks and bring them to you.

Make her laugh and have fun with her.

Introduce her to people, especially to other guys. Don't act like a jealous boyfriend type. Meet everyone you can. Be warm and open.

Dance with her.

Let other girls ask her about the nature of your relationship with her...they will. She probably won't lie for you and I wouldn't ask her too, its a bit pathetic. Some will believe her, some won't, let them draw their own conclusions. If some girl ask you directly, tell them the truth, you guys are friends. Keep it short.

Have fun, lots of it.

Plan logistics, make sure she either drives herself, or you have no problem with her driving your car home if you score. Or make sure she won't be offended if you get her cab home.

Did I mention have fun?

Good luck.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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DonJuan11

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lightofhatred said:
Hey; me and this HB9 are going to this massive beach for NY's, it's TONS of strangers/sluts etc.

How do I use an HB9 (FRIENDS only; she has a boyfriend and is very loyal to him, good girl, but he aint coming :p) to get chicks? I"m thinking of just talking to random ppl with her and keeping her as a "comfort" object sorta?

Or does anyone have any tips? Thanks
You should try to get in with the boyfriend. If he doesn't want to spend New Year's with her, he's getting it somewhere else that night.
 
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