"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Used for sex

Have you been used for sex?

  • Yes, but I would NEVER have a problem with that!

    Votes: 15 27.8%
  • Yes, and it sucks. :-(

    Votes: 9 16.7%
  • Yes, but I only minded when I wanted a LTR, but she didn't.

    Votes: 11 20.4%
  • NOPE, don't have that problem, but wish I did!

    Votes: 19 35.2%

  • Total voters
    54

iqqi

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So one thing I have learned from this site is that some of you actually do want a meaningful LTR, which is something women find hard to believe. This is because women often find themselves targeted as booty calls, where the man has no intention of anything meaningful. Women often resent this.

I myself have done this once in my life, where I specifically targeted a guy for sex only... and he resented it. He wanted more.

SO my question becomes, how many of you have found yourselves the booty call target? And how many of you resented it?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Bible_Belt

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women often find themselves targeted as booty calls, where the man has no intention of anything meaningful.

pm me if you ever get to St Louis :)
 

KarmaSutra

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iqqi,

I've been the 0200 call to wreck that ass after she's been drooled on and fawned over after a night of drunken wantonness with her girlfriends. After those AFC guys have emptied thier wallets in the hope of smelling my fingers and I won't apologize for it.

I had no emotional ties to her neither her to me. We had a remarkable physical connection and let it ride out. Literally :rolleyes: .
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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j0n024

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I havent been "Used" for sex before ...how does it feel? I have had sex where there were no strings attached but never "Used" ...lol. Iqqi you make some pretty dumb posts , I especially like your sig lol....
 

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Maybe..

After I dumped one of my last girlfriends.. we did the fwb thing for a few months till I found her condom stash was completely empty.

Someone else(s) was smart enough to wrap it up apparantly.

The thing is Iqqi, even though we werent together, she was the only woman I was sleeping with at the time, and she was acting way cooler, and I was seriously contemplating LTRing her again. But come to find out she was sleeping around like crazy... go figure!!
 

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iqqi said:
So one thing I have learned from this site is that some of you actually do want a meaningful LTR, which is something women find hard to believe. This is because women often find themselves targeted as booty calls, where the man has no intention of anything meaningful. Women often resent this.
What I find interesting is that most of this site and being a DJ and my own personal experience with women is a guy has to spend so much effort at least in the beginning making the woman believe he doesn't think of her as LTR material or special. We all know what happens, you meet a girl that is exactly or almost exactly what you want and if you let her know that then she's validated and she treats you like an "AFC".

Iqqi, now you say women resent being treated like less than relationship material. Care to explain this parodox in a manner that makes sense?
 

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ketostix said:
Care to explain this parodox in a manner that makes sense?
Haha :rockon:
 

SinJester

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Iqqi...

MOST guys want a LTR. I don't care what anyone else things. You get these playa guys, and a lot of guys (most? lol) who just want to 'live thier life' and sleep around before settling down. The thing is that even these guys who just want to sleep around usally end up falling for someone anyway.

The question you are asking depends completely on the circumstances. The average AFC (most guys) will hate it, because he wont have any other girls and his life and he will fall in love when she offers sex. People call sex 'making love' in our society so there is a strong connection between love and sex and it can confuse people. A jerk or playa probably wont care, it might be lcuky for him.

People will only have a problem with it if they have feelings for that girl. It is up to the girl to judge that. I can see most guys falling for the girl. If it is a one night stand involving alcahol then the opposite is porbably true.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Iqqi, your poll is a little bit off. I would rather have had the response of "nope" and that is it. I have not had it happen with sex, but have had it with making out. I wasn't upset in the long run, but my ego was a problem in the short run.

Actually now, I am moving in with the girl that did that. She is one of my best friends (go figure)

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Francisco d'Anconia

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comic_relief said:
Iqqi, your poll is a little bit off. I would rather have had the response of "nope" and that is it. ..
I agree, the "Yes" selections seem a bit directed too.
 

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Haha Karma my man! Thats a way to be n!gga
but dude why 0200 never heard that
 

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^^^He is militant, and so is his time.

The poll results are interesting!!!

IF you don't see your desired selection, feel free to pick the closest one and/or tell me here what's up.
 

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I've been used for sex, mainly b/c I don't look like the boyfriend type. I'm pretty good looking, have a C/F attitude and it works great when you wanna get laid. But i often get labeled as a player, too ****y, etc. Plus i dont think girls would feel comfortable dating me, and i don't blame them.

This has come around and bit me in the a$$ when I wanted a LTR. Pretty much everytime I got shot down with girls I wanted a relationship with.

I dont think girls feel comfortable having LTR's with the player/pimp types. Which goes against social proof. Briefly, SP is a demonstration of value where your always seen around girls, girls talking about you, a stereotype you may have, etc. This is usually talked about as one of the most important things to have, yet, I think social proof can also go against in you. This is where social proof can be sort of confusing.

I just dont think girls can trust a DJ type of guy these days for LTR.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I am going to vote for Gerard, as his last post talked about how women only wanted him for sex, and noone really loved him, or even wanted to speak to him after, and it made him very very sad.
 

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i think we ALL have been used for sex, or atleast the majority.

Whether or not you are in a LTR or out hitting the bars for ONS, we all are mainly looking to have someone provide a service of sexual intimacy.

of course most of the time in LTRs you are as much trying to recieve this pleasure as well as provide it. however there are still those times that you just want to "get off". is that not considered using another person?

I think that (based on the results) people are referring to "used" as ..

"hey, take me back to your place, im gonna give you the time of your life but dont expect me there in the morning" type of scenerio

..and to add..

ask yourself...how many relationships have you been in and she/he may have held on to this relationship soley based on the sexual intimacy and you never knew??

its a strong possiblity
 

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DavenJuan said:
..and to add..

ask yourself...how many relationships have you been in and she/he may have held on to this relationship soley based on the sexual intimacy and you never knew??

its a strong possiblity
What a great question, and one I'd really be interested in hearing answers to.


I'd also like to know how many of you started off using or being used for sex, but ended up wanting more, and getting more (a LTR).
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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