"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Urgent: Woman With BF Gave Me Her E-mail; How Do I Play My Cards?

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This weekend, I talked to a woman I met on the street who told me that she had a boyfriend. Yet, I was so physically attracted to her that I felt I really would have liked some means to stay in touch with her, so I asked if I could at least get her e-mail address. I couldn't help it. Her ass was incredibly HUGE, the second biggest butt I saw just last weekend...the kind of ass that could make a man get on his knees and plead for mercy. Whew! When I first approached her, I said "hello" to her but she didn't respond, she kept on walking, yet I remained persistent, smiled, shook her hand and began walking with her, then I got her to stop for a couple of minutes and I talked to her.


In the middle of the conversation, I was able to get her smiling and laughing and she did confirm to me that guys have been hitting on her a lot. The one connection we seemed to have was that she's also a graduate student. I had to approach her in a non-threatening and intellectual manner. So I got her e-mail before we parted, but based on previous experiences, many women with boyfriends either tend to use the e-mail addresses as an easy way to get rid of you, or they may reply to your e-mails once or twice and then everything just fades off and you never hear from them again. Now, I met this woman on Friday, so my goal is to e-mail her today. What can I write given the circumstances that could encourage her to be willing to give me a chance to see her again and to not compose an e-mail that might come across to her as boring? I really would like to see her again and I don't want to wait too long so that she doesn't forget about me. The most I can do is try.


It was an interesting weekend, though. I got another e-mail from another big ass woman on Saturday...although her ass wasn't as big as the other woman's...it wasn't bad at all and it looked really great in jeans. I could see her curves right from the front.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Re:

Well, I guess no one deems this post worthy of a response. I'm about to write the e-mail now.
 

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Frank2500 said:
Well, I guess no one deems this post worthy of a response. I'm about to write the e-mail now.
i dont think anyone is ignoring you frank, tbh dude your doing pritty ok by yourself!
 

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dude only gave folks 3 hours to respond then gave up, lol
 

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yeh his interest level is way off the charts, and hers.....?

why the hurry, frank?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I wouldn't worry about any of it until she agrees to go out with you. Anything else should be considered nothing but attention grabbing and ego stroking for her benefit.

Tell her you're not the type of guy who lives via emails and text messages (lie if you need to); tell her that the two of you should get together and [fill in the blank].
 

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Re: Shallow Women

Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts, guys. Well...I e-mailed both women on Monday but haven't heard back from any of them as of yet, so in my opinion, it's already not looking good. I wasn't putting my heart into the e-mail I wrote to the one who supposedly had a boyfriend, so I won't be surprised if she ends up not replying at all and might have used the e-mail thing as a way to get me to stop talking to her. But the second woman, who I met on Saturday, seemed to be much more open-minded and receptive. She stopped and wrote down her e-mail address for me on the street and then gave me a piece of paper so I could write mine down as well. If she wasn't being genuine, she was a good actress. I've seen them all here in the United States.



It just amazes me how many women in this country think it is appropriate for them to exploit, hurt and mess up with the emotions of men who are genuinely interested in them, yet at the same time are the first to write books about how men are jerks and to cry foul on TV and radio stations. When a man who has his head on his shoulders and is about something comes into their lives, they get confused and don't know how to handle him. Ironically, these same women who reject men for superficial reasons will be the first to line up for their attention tomorrow if they became stars.



I'm not sure what it is, but quite a few of the knuckle-headed women I have met through much of my life in this country tend to say things like "you're so sweet" or "you're so nice" after I approach them and sometimes it's hard to tell if the particular woman is using it as a compliment or not. In all honesty, my heart goes out to the way many women behave in this country because their heads are really messed up. Their priorities are so skewed and most of them are just unbelievably superficial. If I have to count the number of good or unique women I have met in this country for the past 11 years, it is less than or close to 4. I doubt that it is a Philadelphia thing, for I have experienced quite the same behavior in other cities.



At this point, I'm just going to keep focusing on lifting weights and on trying to go to as many auditions and casting calls as possible to attempt breaking into the modeling and entertainment industry here. I strongly believe that I deserve a lot better and shouldn't be wasting my time worrying about air-headed women and their shallow ways.
 

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Did any one of them gave you their WORK email address?

That's how you know if they are genuine for real.
 

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I don't get these, I feel slightly rejected, therefore, I am going to revolutionize my life and get things in order threads.

Everytime someone gets an unfavorable answer from a woman, they then post how they are going to "really focus on things," "start doing xyz," etc.

Rejection happens. Maybe you should find single women.

Why are you calling her shallow? Aren't you the one that said you REALLY wanted the number because she had a big azz?

And since when is not courting attention from other men WHILE IN A RELATIONSHIP shallow?

Most likely the attraction wasn't there. You know, when women feel an attraction and are in a relationship here is what they do: They don't mention a BF.
 

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Frank2500 said:
It just amazes me how many women in this country think it is appropriate for them to exploit, hurt and mess up with the emotions of men who are genuinely interested in them, yet at the same time are the first to write books about how men are jerks and to cry foul on TV and radio stations. When a man who has his head on his shoulders and is about something comes into their lives, they get confused and don't know how to handle him. Ironically, these same women who reject men for superficial reasons will be the first to line up for their attention tomorrow if they became stars.
Sounds like you are a nice guy that is gettin fed up. Dont turn into a woman hater, learn how you can get enough attraction to get what you desire, hit up the bible and the archives for this, read up on threads by PROVEN posters about being a nice guy and keep going after girls, to paraphrase what Scought said, turning into a recluse is not going to solve the problem. Your social skills are like a muscle and if you take a break from them, then you will be weak when you come back. You can sarge and hit the gymconcurrently.

I dont want to label you, but based on the desperation of the original post, it seemed inevitable that you were going to get flaked on. You thought it was urgent that you made this work and that you had to fight to get her attention. You played it all wrong..
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Scought said:
You know, when women feel an attraction and are in a relationship here is what they do: They don't mention a BF.
I hate when women do this!!! happened to me yesterday. I cold approached a BIG BOOTY GIRL in the library a month ago. She NEVER mentioned she had a BF. We talked for a good ten minutes. She had so many opportunities to tell me. Then i don't see her in a month until yesterday. And she says that she LIVES with her bf. I was like damn. Women like to play too many games.
 

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rakishness said:
I hate when women do this!!! happened to me yesterday. I cold approached a BIG BOOTY GIRL in the library a month ago. She NEVER mentioned she had a BF. We talked for a good ten minutes. She had so many opportunities to tell me. Then i don't see her in a month until yesterday. And she says that she LIVES with her bf. I was like damn. Women like to play too many games.
"Don't ask, don't tell" can either work for or against you. There are some women that will still pursue you even after they let you know that they have a BF. You just have to decide whether they are worth your time and effort.
 
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