“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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My post disappeared to the abyss - damn keyboard/mouse trick!!!!!

Well in short -- this chick is cautious and will question your every move -- she'll have to show her children a good example considering she just got out of a previous LTR - I don't think this one is a thriller - if that is what you are looking for!

A 23 year old w/ no kids is a thriller!!!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Last Man Standing said:
My post disappeared to the abyss - damn keyboard/mouse trick!!!!!

Well in short -- this chick is cautious and will question your every move -- she'll have to show her children a good example considering she just got out of a previous LTR - I don't think this one is a thriller - if that is what you are looking for!

A 23 year old w/ no kids is a thriller!!!
I sensed that she doesn't want an another a$$hole in her life, and that maybe she is afraid of her own kids pushing any new man away. Unfortunatelt, the 23 y.o. has kids as well. I'm still scoping, but most of the women without kids that I have been coming across are annoying as h3ll!

In the meantime, I have to figure out how to proceed with this woman over the next few days. I'm thinking limited flirting and kino. I also have to run into the 23 y.o., get her # and try to make plans. Either way, I'm going out Friday and possibly Saturday night.
 
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In the meantime, I have to figure out how to proceed with this woman over the next few days. I'm thinking limited flirting and kino.
I don't know about the "kino" on an older woman with two teenage children - keep it to a minimum.

On the phone she seemed a bit apprehensive -- as if she didn't know you were pursuing her romantically!! This is going to be a slow labor intensive conquer -- just my intuition.
 

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call her or something.
 

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I don't know about the "kino" on an older woman with two teenage children - keep it to a minimum.

On the phone she seemed a bit apprehensive -- as if she didn't know you were pursuing her romantically!! This is going to be a slow labor intensive conquer -- just my intuition.
I'll keep it to a minimum. That light touch to her elbow seemed to have a positive effect.

I'm not even sure yet if I am going to pursue her romantically yet. Honestly, I wouldn't mind a FB or two. Part of me is, but part of me just isn't ready to go from one LTR to the other just yet. She and I both have a lot of things going on in our lives, but that doesn't mean that we can't have fun!:up:
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Zerotwoonenine said:
call her or something.
I probably will, but not for another day or two. She did call me twice last night. She text'd me and asked if we could chat by text for a little bit, because her kids were trying to figure out who she was talking too. After they left her alone, she called me bac. So she didn't even give me a chance to call her after 9!
 

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How old is this woman and her children?
42 I believe. She looks as though she is in her 30's. I don't see the ages of either her children or mine having a bearing on the situation.
 

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42 I believe. She looks as though she is in her 30's. I don't see the ages of either her children or mine having a bearing on the situation.
Don't waste your time. It is not worthy. She is playing games (based on the "conversation" you posted).

You are 29 and was cellibate (why???) for 2 years and the first thing you want is a 42 year old woman with two teenager kids that is making YOU WORK for a laid?

She would have to give it up easier...or you would have to move on.
 

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42 I believe. She looks as though she is in her 30's. I don't see the ages of either her children or mine having a bearing on the situation.
And the children has a bearing...or didn't you HEAR when she said she "couldn't talk" because of her kids asking who she was talking with?

Irregardless...you are 29. If she wants to play games...she can do that with a man OLDER than her. A younger man?

No time for that crap. Don't waste your time. Use her as a spinning plate and focus on SEVERAL other women.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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My point is that you are dealing with a very insecure woman.

And I sense that you are thinking way too much about her. Enough as to create two threads asking for advice.

I would be focusing on the 23 year old (even if she has kids), while keeping the 42 year old on the side (for spinning)...and then try to add a third one (without kids). That avoid you getting attached to anyone at this moment.
 

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Latinoman said:
Don't waste your time. It is not worthy. She is playing games (based on the "conversation" you posted).
She is just uncertain about dating anyone right now, that is my belief. An attractive person to practice DJ skills on.

You are 29 and was cellibate (why???) for 2 years and the first thing you want is a 42 year old woman with two teenager kids that is making YOU WORK for a laid?

She would have to give it up easier...or you would have to move on.
I was celibate because I had to reorganize myself and my life and focus on my kids. My marriage was nothing but sh1t for 8 years. I am not focusing 100% of my efforts on this one woman either. She is a challenge, so I am here for advice on the situation. I like challenges since they are learning experiences, and fun.
 
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Latinoman said:
And the children has a bearing...or didn't you HEAR when she said she "couldn't talk" because of her kids asking who she was talking with?
She didn't avoid talking with me becuae of her kids, they just tried to interupt our convo. I found it to be kind of funny in a way. Maybe it was a test of my patience/tolerance level. Anyway, I have kids of my own so to be fair, I must be willing to date women who also have kids as well as ones who do not.

Irregardless...you are 29. If she wants to play games...she can do that with a man OLDER than her. A younger man?

No time for that crap. Don't waste your time. Use her as a spinning plate and focus on SEVERAL other women.
Yes, there is the 23 y.o...
 

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My point is that you are dealing with a very insecure woman.

And I sense that you are thinking way too much about her. Enough as to create two threads asking for advice.

I would be focusing on the 23 year old (even if she has kids), while keeping the 42 year old on the side (for spinning)...and then try to add a third one (without kids). That avoid you getting attached to anyone at this moment.
I appreciate your concern, but the whole point of this forum is to give and receive tips/advice...or so I thought. The 23 y.o. will not be much of a challenge, so I haven't posted any questions about that situation.

The woman is insecure because of a sh1tty ex. I recognize this, because I have been there. Regardless, she is a gorgeous, feisty Italian who I can get along with. That doesn't mean that she and I have to have a LTR with commitments.
 

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I appreciate your concern, but the whole point of this forum is to give and receive tips/advice...or so I thought. The 23 y.o. will not be much of a challenge, so I haven't posted any questions about that situation.
I'm giving you advice. In fact, I posted ONE LONG PAGE on how to deal with the Convo you had with her in the telephone. And do you know what? I deleted that page (in Word) once I realized you were talking about this 42 year old lady (I truthfully thought the convo was with a woman in her early 20s).

The woman is insecure because of a sh1tty ex.
That's her phucking problem...not yours. You are not here to save women...especially middle age women. She is OLDER (much more older) than you...so, she should have known better.

I recognize this, because I have been there. Regardless, she is a gorgeous, feisty Italian who I can get along with.
This is UNREAL!

You are 29 with lot of options.

And you are interested in that woman that works with you...is in her 40s...insecure...playing stupid games (and yes, she is playing stupid games)...and have children that are making the situation more difficult?



That doesn't mean that she and I have to have a LTR with commitments.
That's the thing...you already are too emotionally involved and you have not even phucked her yet.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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That's her phucking problem...not yours. You are not here to save women...especially middle age women. She is OLDER (much more older) than you...so, she should have known better.
I am different than a lot of people in that I do not view the age gap to be that great. Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore have a greater gap in age. I'm not trying to save her either.


This is UNREAL!

You are 29 with lot of options.

And you are interested in that woman that works with you...is in her 40s...insecure...playing stupid games (and yes, she is playing stupid games)...and have children that are making the situation more difficult?
I'm having a good time with it and learning some things. I do not see the big deal. As I said, I'm not focusing all of my efforts on this one woman. I realize that I have a lot of options, options that I am going to be looking into this weekend.



That's the thing...you already are too emotionally involved and you have not even phucked her yet.
I am not emotionally involved. All I did was rationalize why I can have anything to with this woman. I like challenges is all.
 

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I can't believe nobody is b1tch slapping this guy for spending an hour talking to her on the phone. That tells her your AFC and don't have a life. You should never talk to a women for more than 15 mins. Phone should only be used to set up dates. Its all apart of the female drama, getting you to have long talks on the phone.

Finally, Latinoman is right, you shouldn't be wasting too much time on this 42 yr old. Just because Ashton Kusher is dating one of the hottest 40 yr olds on the planet doesn't mean that all 29 yr olds should be goin after dried up used pvssy. She's no Demi Moore so stop trying to justify your actions. She's single at 42 for a reason. She's got major issues. If she was a high quality women, after her divorce, she would have found a replacement in her mid thirties before she became 40 and over the hill.
 

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I can't believe nobody is b1tch slapping this guy for spending an hour talking to her on the phone. That tells her your AFC and don't have a life. You should never talk to a women for more than 15 mins. Phone should only be used to set up dates. Its all apart of the female drama, getting you to have long talks on the phone.

Finally, Latinoman is right, you shouldn't be wasting too much time on this 42 yr old. Just because Ashton Kusher is dating one of the hottest 40 yr olds on the planet doesn't mean that all 29 yr olds should be goin after dried up used pvssy. She's no Demi Moore so stop trying to justify your actions. She's single at 42 for a reason. She's got major issues. If she was a high quality women, after her divorce, she would have found a replacement in her mid thirties before she became 40 and over the hill.
Just read this, i was about to post:
1 hour on the phone??!!

15mins in my book is still too much, the phone is for setting up dates, so you can spend 1 hour talking to her over a beer or over stripping naked.

Dam 1hour on the phone talking to a women, cant think of anything worse.

I am probably going to have nightmares over the thought of this :D

Honestly cut the phone chat out, set up a date!

Again no reason why this thread should be dragged on he wasted so many opportunities and as esculated this way past what it should be.

Phone, set up a date, idle chat. Date, talk e.t.c

But 1 hour on the dam phone! I hope she phoned you also!


Also the 42 year old, i aint going to bust your balls, your choice in women is not my concern, but your make alot of mistakes here. which some are pulling you up on.

Maybe i should read your full post and not the first two lines, which made me squirm at just that! thats the OP.
 

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ok read your thread now:D


Ok first was the one hour conversation.

I am just going to pick things out here from your post.

Date set up:
Your assuming way too much from this girl and her LTR.
Stating a dinner date was weird! could imply a lot of things.
I would have progressed it and asked her what she prefers!
Then followed it up and not made a conversation about dinner dates, assumed about other BF or AFC labels.

Her life and interests are better spoke about in person, if you go down the route of phone calls when you come to meet you, will be all dry for topics of conversation. Or the women maybe content to phone relationship type behaviours and push you to phone games, which will cost you in the long run! This is not just money but dates also, keep phone calls light and to the point of setting up meetings only!

Also she is taking the lead, no responding about going out? I have no idea why, what was the purpose of the phone call?
Set up a meeting based on facts not assumptions.

Work situation, be careful with work related relationships, they can backfire. Also I would limit kino away from work if she complains about your persistence (which is a possibility at any stage) and your witness doing kino moves e.t.c, it could be translated as sexual harassment and pervy behaviour. Keep kino away from the office and for DATES!

Dating co-workers can get very messy, you have made it even more messier by taking away the discretion and made it public.
She may have liked you but your actions are borderline stupid, no offence. Some have already pointed it out.
To include others from work just made the situation heighten, instead of relaxed.

But and this is a big BUT.

The women is 42 she has two kids, she may not have had a man in a while and is keen for one.

She may have interest due to her age.

An hour on the phone does equal she likes you, since she would not waste that much time, it could also mean she is lonely, another plus on yourside as she may be looking for companionship.

Also I would question why she is divorced or single at 42 with two kids, it would raise questions.

Your also acting like this is going to be a relationship.
Are you sure this is a good move?
A 42 year old women with two kids, is this the best you can get?

She probably thinks what the hell does he see in me and you know she would be right!

What are you doing?

Also cancerian stop assuming what this women wants, FFS man!

I assume she has had too many as*holes in her life, wtf is that>?

cancerian your not practicing DJ skills on this chick at all, what you are doing is qualifying yourself for a LTR with her ground rules. If this turns out that way.

Nothing you have done shows this is your game, this is very much her game and she is fundumentally playing with a little boy!

first rule:
stop assuming every, dam thing.

Take charge in situations.

Stop letting control take over.

Either get your result or wait it out, not settle for her frame i.e chatting for an hour, living by her rules her dating set up.

your a busy guy with a life, you not at her discretion.

You need to take more charge of what you want and stop allowing assumptions to qualify the control that others are having or justifying things that are not going your way.

You cant have everything!
Now next time you speak to make it clear you either want a date! If she turns you down, simply ask her when she is free, if she gives you some stupid remark then MOVE ON! instead what you will do is assume your not an AFC or an As*hole and try to make small talk.

get the hint and grow those balls, now is the time :D

Oh and use women over 42 as FB only.
 

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I am different than a lot of people in that I do not view the age gap to be that great. Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore have a greater gap in age. I'm not trying to save her either.
The age gap is WAY TOO GREAT. Anyhow on the Demi Moore MYTH:

From ENTERTAINMENT NEWS

Demi Moore may have spent 226,500 on staying young!



By ANI

Wednesday October 25

London, Oct 25 (ANI): Hollywood beauty Demi Moore may have found it comparatively easier to get a hubby who is 15 years younger to her, than keeping her body young, for the actress has reportedly spent ?226,500 on cosmetic surgery.

Now after finding a surgeon who has perfected a technique to remove saggy skin from the knees, Moore is back to her perfect self again.

After her flaw was pointed out to her, the mother of three - who is very conscious that actor husband Ashton Kutcher is 15 years younger than her asked her plastic surgeon for help.

"Demi went to Brian Novack, who has already done work on her," a source close to the actress was quoted by the Daily Mail, as saying.

"He is a fantastic surgeon and his clients don't look like they've had surgery. Demi couldn't stand it that there was any part of her that is not perfect.
She is also sensitive about her age, although Ashton has told her a million times he doesn't care about what she looks like because he loves her.

A lot of her friends were trying to talk her out of having more surgery. Worrying about her knees, of all things, is just silly. She's lucky that's the only part of her left to sag!" he added.

Knees are one of the hardest areas of the body to have done because there is nowhere to conceal the scarring.

The surgery added another ?5,000 to the ?220,000 tally of improving her body. Among the work she has allegedly had is liposuction to her hips, thighs and stomach, estimated to have cost ?16,000, a ?9,500 breast implant operation and ?20,000 of work on her face.

She has also paid an army of advisers including a nutritionist, personal trainer, yoga teacher and kick-boxing coach.

What cosmetic surgeons believe Demi has had done.
Hmmmm...another thing, Ashton wants a baby badly. I wonder if she can get implanted one by her doctor.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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