"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Update to victim of a female DJ.

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I wrote a thread detailing how I work with this female version of a Don Juan and what she does got me all lovey-feeling for her. minor case of one-itis now.

Here is the thread:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90272

Anyways, the update is I bump into her outside of work for the first time. She saw me and my friends (we all know each other) and she started giving all of us hugs. And at the moment I decided to pull a move, and so when she proceeds to give me a hug, I give her a hug but I also grab her ass with my right hand hahaha. I squeezed it and my god, it was so soft. She pulls back and push me away with the expression "Watch it!" and of course she was smiling not really offended.

Not sure if this score any positive points with her (probably negative points) but it was funny as hell, she had no clue that was coming. haha
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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For your information, this isn't kino.

All *sexual* areas of the female body are off limits unless she's given you permission to make contact with them. If she hasn't given you this permission and you do it anyway, be prepared to have a sexual harassment charge slapped on YOUR ass.
 

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Originally posted by Desdinova
For your information, this isn't kino.

All *sexual* areas of the female body are off limits unless she's given you permission to make contact with them. If she hasn't given you this permission and you do it anyway, be prepared to have a sexual harassment charge slapped on YOUR ass.

I am aware of that but we are on a friend level than a co-worker. It is something that is acceptable between us.
 

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If grabbing her ass is "acceptable", fvcking her in the closet would be acceptable. The only problem is friends don't have sex with friends.

Grabbing a woman's ass is sexual, not something friends do. Do you grab your male friends' asses too?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by Desdinova
If grabbing her ass is "acceptable", fvcking her in the closet would be acceptable. The only problem is friends don't have sex with friends.

Grabbing a woman's ass is sexual, not something friends do. Do you grab your male friends' asses too?
Not the friends I hang out with. We are very open about being sexual, we talk about sex like it is normal convo. You would probably feel disgusted if you hear some of the stuff we talk about. And friends don't have sex with friends isn't true. Have you heard of friends with benefits? There are some friends that are very sexual and some aren't. You just have to know which one to hold back on.

No I don't grab my male friends ass, how is that any fun for me? But I would probably smack it with a towel though.
 

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Originally posted by Swoop
And friends don't have sex with friends isn't true. Have you heard of friends with benefits? There are some friends that are very sexual and some aren't.
Friend is a term that desribes non-sexual relationship. Friends with benefits its just a term where people from the opposite sex that know each other engage in a casual sexual relationship. If she really thought of you as a friend, you wouldn't have been able to touch her at all (she would have been disgusted by the thought of that).

Men and women cannot be true friends because of the sex that may or may not happen.

DjDamage
 

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Originally posted by DJDamage
Men and women cannot be true friends because of the sex that may or may not happen.
Another retarded sosuave generalization that's disproven by the real world.
 

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Originally posted by DJDamage
Friends with benefits its just a term where people from the opposite sex that know each other engage in a casual sexual relationship.
No, that is a definition of a fvckbuddy. Friends with benefits are real friends as well.
 

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Originally posted by Scrumtulescence
Another retarded sosuave generalization that's disproven by the real world.
The real world is what you make of it. If you believe everything you see to be real then I got some magic beans I would like to sell you.

Originally posted by Swoop
No, that is a definition of a fvckbuddy. Friends with benefits are real friends as well.
lol you come up with different definitions to describe something which is exectly the same.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Originally posted by DJDamage


lol you come up with different definitions to describe something which is exectly the same.
It's not the same. To me at least. The fvckbuddy is someone I call up with the intent to end the night with sex. Friends with benefits, we go out at least 95% of the time to kick it and have fun without sex involve, like real friends do. Very rarely do we engage in sex but the benefits is there. Slight difference in my opinon.
 

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Originally posted by Desdinova
For your information, this isn't kino.

All *sexual* areas of the female body are off limits unless she's given you permission to make contact with them. If she hasn't given you this permission and you do it anyway, be prepared to have a sexual harassment charge slapped on YOUR ass.
While I agree that it probably wasn't appropriate, he can't get charged with sexual harassment if it happened OUTSIDE of the workplace and had nothing to do with work.
 

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Then it becomes "assualt." I don't know, I wouldn't make a bold move like that unless I was 100% sure it was welcome.
 

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Bloody hell. I am not a true DJ but bloody hell, feelin someones arse is not that bad.

When with ma mates (who are girls), and i felt their ass, they didnt go all "thatts assault" on me. its only playful.

He asks what we thought and you all go overboard.
 

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In all honestly, and I have been on both sides of the equation... you can't be friends with someone you want to ****.

Note that I didn't say that someone you find attractive.. It's a big difference in looking at someone and saying she's attrative, and another when everytime you look at her, no matter what you say, you think about humping her over the nearest coach.

Because everything action you make, concsiously or subconsiously, will be to **** her. If she asks for advice.. you aren't giving her the correct advice... you are giving her the advice that will make it easier for you to **** her one day.

And if you are ****ing.. you aren't friends... your people who **** that happen to know each other.

I was ****ing this one girl for the better part of 6 months.. We went out, did friend type things... I got invited to her Bday party, met her sisters and all, she even had a sleepover with her fine ass friends at my house one night. However I wouldn't dare call us friends. She was very fun to be around, but make no mistake about it, we had sex and it was just sex. When I stopped having sex with her, I stopped talking to her. What else is there to talk about?

Yeah, there are guys out there, so many of them as a matter of fact, that say "yeah, look at me and (insert girl's name)... yeah she's hot, but we are really cool.. I'm different" They are only lying to yourselfs, which is worse, because you are not in touch with what you really want.

It's nothing wrong with wanting to have sex with a woman, however listening to TV and women these days you would think it's a felony to get a hard on for an attractive woman.

To the original poster.. how do you know she wasn't offended? Because she didn't slap you? Maybe she was being nice becuase you were in front of your friends and didn't want to embarass you.
That was pretty stupid in my opinion.

Sexual tension is something that has to be built up, ,eithe rover a long or a short amount of time. It's not something that you can just throw on a woman.

A woman will give you all the signs in the world to let you know she is ready to for the taking.. Drastic moves such as grabbing her ass out of the blue are not only not called for, they are pretty disrespectful.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Originally posted by Swoop
I wrote a thread detailing how I work with this female version of a Don Juan and what she does got me all lovey-feeling for her. minor case of one-itis now.

Here is the thread:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90272

Anyways, the update is I bump into her outside of work for the first time. She saw me and my friends (we all know each other) and she started giving all of us hugs. And at the moment I decided to pull a move, and so when she proceeds to give me a hug, I give her a hug but I also grab her ass with my right hand hahaha. I squeezed it and my god, it was so soft. She pulls back and push me away with the expression "Watch it!" and of course she was smiling not really offended.

Not sure if this score any positive points with her (probably negative points) but it was funny as hell, she had no clue that was coming. haha
Swoop,

You`re getting way ahead of yourself here.

First off, you have to beat her at her own game of being the office wit or smartass, whatever, so that she knows you can not only step it up but that you won`t let up and she`ll have to give up.

Next is to dial up the sexual tension, then step back and then take 2 steps forward. Repeat as necessary. Meaning keep her off-balance but keep cranking her up.

This will result in her not being able to withstand the internal pressure she`s feeling, from all that sexual tension, whose reigns you`re holding, and uncontrollably GRAB YOUR ASS. Then you`re free to grope her as you like. But even then, tease, tease, and tease again.

Wouldn`t it be the best to turn the tables around and have her lusting after you? Be patient and play it out excruciatingly, but deliciously slow so that she caves in first.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,
Mav
 

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Re: Re: Update to victim of a female DJ.

Originally posted by Maverick001
Swoop,

You`re getting way ahead of yourself here.

First off, you have to beat her at her own game of being the office wit or smartass, whatever, so that she knows you can not only step it up but that you won`t let up and she`ll have to give up.

Next is to dial up the sexual tension, then step back and then take 2 steps forward. Repeat as necessary. Meaning keep her off-balance but keep cranking her up.

This will result in her not being able to withstand the internal pressure she`s feeling, from all that sexual tension, whose reigns you`re holding, and uncontrollably GRAB YOUR ASS. Then you`re free to grope her as you like. But even then, tease, tease, and tease again.

Wouldn`t it be the best to turn the tables around and have her lusting after you? Be patient and play it out excruciatingly, but deliciously slow so that she caves in first.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,
Mav
Thanks bro. Good to hear some sound advice. I'll try and built that sexual tension. What made me did the bold move was she actually told me I'm "so nice". So I thought this way she will start to think of me differently. I admit this move is pretty crazy but if this can shift the paradigm between us, then I will coin this technique the Swoop HuG And Grab (SHAG) ;)
 

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Originally posted by backbreaker


To the original poster.. how do you know she wasn't offended? Because she didn't slap you? Maybe she was being nice becuase you were in front of your friends and didn't want to embarass you.
That was pretty stupid in my opinion.

Sexual tension is something that has to be built up, ,eithe rover a long or a short amount of time. It's not something that you can just throw on a woman.

A woman will give you all the signs in the world to let you know she is ready to for the taking.. Drastic moves such as grabbing her ass out of the blue are not only not called for, they are pretty disrespectful.
I can see how it is disrespectful, but I was pretty sure she wasn't offended, it's just how we are. It's hard to explain, you just know when someone can take stuff like that as being playful.

And after I did that, guess what happens? We hang out and just have a blast.
 

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Originally posted by johnmich
Bloody hell. I am not a true DJ but bloody hell, feelin someones arse is not that bad.

When with ma mates (who are girls), and i felt their ass, they didnt go all "thatts assault" on me. its only playful.

He asks what we thought and you all go overboard.
See, you know what I am talking about.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Update to victim of a female DJ.

Originally posted by Swoop
Thanks bro. Good to hear some sound advice. I'll try and built that sexual tension. What made me did the bold move was she actually told me I'm "so nice". So I thought this way she will start to think of me differently. I admit this move is pretty crazy but if this can shift the paradigm between us, then I will coin this technique the Swoop HuG And Grab (SHAG) ;)
Swoop,

You`re welcome. Anytime.

Swoop HuG And Grab (SHAG)?! LOL, that`s funny. The pre-SHAG to the main event...:cool:

Cheers,
Mav
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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