Update and possible upgrade of status

[Tontholis30]

As some of you know...
I made a post yesterday were I made a complete fool of myself and jet rocket myself into the friend zone.

Quick recap, I basically acted like her psychiatrist instead of the next DJ in her life.. the end of the email she asked for my number and I so happily gave it to her with out putting up a fight.

Here is a link to the post if interested..
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=175285

Anyway.. here is the update where I attempted to redeem myself..
It took me a sec to get warmed up so bare with me..

Her: "Hey it's Melissa, ur chatting buddy! Hope I am not bothering you too late?"

Me: "Nah, I'm good.. How you doing?"

Her: "Ok, you? I need the meeting scoop! What do you have going on tomorrow?"

Me: "Besides work, not too much. Want to go grab a cup of coffee?"

Her: "I was thinking if it is nice, walking and talking would be great!"

Me: "Just checked the weather, it is looking like it may be a little bit wet.. May just rain in the AM.. If not.. sure, walking and talking would be great."

Her: "Rain is ok... I kinda wanted to hear your rendition of singing in the rain."

** after thinking about how I usually act in this situation, I decided it was a time for a change so I began a little DJ practice **

Me: "Thought you were shy? Here you are asking me out. And my version is very good. I have lots of practice. Perhaps a duet?"

Her: "I am shy! I need the details of what I missed! Thought you were my go to guy! And I just mastered messaging. Still need to work on actually talking! Go easy on me.. one thing at a time!"

Me: "Ahh.. so you are just using me for my goods.. That will cost you a few points. One thing at a time is always good. You are the thumb master! So don't worry. I don't bite.. much"

Her: "Hey now.. What about the pic? Don't make me rethink this blossoming friendship!"

Me: "What pic are you talking about?"

Her: "No, no... Don't play the I don't know what ur talking about card! That doesn't work here!"

Me: "Oh you go from shy to dominating... I like... Looks like you are warming up to me quite nicely!"

Her: "I like to change it up... A thinker by nature... Revealing... I think not...! A bit mysterious if u will!"

-end

At that point.. I fell asleep.. so i did not get her last message till this morning.

My thoughts are... my work is cut out for me here if I am to get out of the FZ. I also believe my next move should be absolutely nothing. Let her make the next move...

Though I would love another person's perspective on this...
I know I am an AFC. I am currently reading the DJ Bible working on changing many things...

~Tontholis

 

[SandHawk]

To me this looks like friendship on her side. The interaction has "Friend zone" plastered all over it. She even literally says "friendship" and "buddy" several times... Just move on to the next girl.

 

[Kailex]

Her: "Hey it's Melissa, ur chatting buddy! Hope I am not bothering you too late?"

Her: "Hey now.. What about the pic? Don't make me rethink this blossoming friendship!"

My thoughts are... my work is cut out for me here if I am to get out of the FZ. I also believe my next move should be absolutely nothing. Let her make the next move...

Next move?
You haven't even made your first move yet? You asked her out to coffee as a friend (in her eyes).

Look, do you want to be her friend or go out with her or bone her or what?
Was that whole conversation a text message conversation? That whole thing was a girlfriend/girlfriend conversation. You were trying to bring up some attraction, but she was deflecting it.

Stop the texting, stop being a friend.

But to be honest, I think it might be too late by now.
It'd be less effort to just find new women and game them instead. If anything, use this one as social proof, or hell, ask her if she has any friends that are single and might want to hook up.

 

[Tontholis30]

This wasn't meant as a "hook-up".
In fact I really thought I was doing well before I got on this site and found out i totally blew it.. sigh

But to be honest, I think it might be too late by now.
It'd be less effort to just find new women and game them instead. If anything, use this one as social proof, or hell, ask her if she has any friends that are single and might want to hook up.

I had that feeling too...
I did my best to not even acknowledge the "friend" comments.
Sadly it was all text messaging..
I am not a big fan of it.

 

[vatoloco]

Her: "Hey it's Melissa, ur chatting buddy! Hope I am not bothering you too late?"

"Melissa who?"

This should have been your first text.

Sadly it was all text messaging..
I am not a big fan of it.

This is exactly why I heavily dislike texting with women. Too many unknowns for my taste...


Tontholis30, please don't take the rest of this message personally. I'm just gonna have a little bit of fun translating her W0manese. Alright, here we go:

Her: "Hey it's Melissa, ur chatting buddy! Hope I am not bothering you too late?"

"Hey it's Melissa, ur psychiatry client! I don't care that I'm texting you this late"

Her: "What do you have going on tomorrow?"

"Are you free tomorrow for another session?" OR "I need someone to talk to as I don't want to be bored"

Her: "I was thinking if it is nice, walking and talking would be great!"

"I don't want to date you! I want free counseling!"

Her: "Rain is ok... I kinda wanted to hear your rendition of singing in the rain."

"Dance, monkey. Dance!"

Her: "I am shy!

"I am not shy."

Thought you were my go to guy!

"Thought you were my go to guy...for non-romantic things... like free counseling!"

And I just mastered messaging. Still need to work on actually talking!

"It's much easier for me to put up a barrier through texts. I would find it much harder to reject you over the phone... that is, if you had the balls to ask me out over the phone or in person..."

Her: "Don't make me rethink this blossoming friendship!"

"Please engrave the word friendship in your brain. I will never see you in a sexual way. We will never, EVER fvck."

Her: "No, no... Don't play the I don't know what ur talking about card! That doesn't work here!"

"Please don't do that. I'm the one in control here!"



Of course, I kid!

Looks to me like she just wants to have you as an orbiter and/or shrink.

 

[Tontholis30]

That was fantastic! Love your translating ability!!
I am still laughing.. but it is sooo true..
While she was texting all that, all I can could think of was just keep the mild flirting going and if that isnt what she wants then so be it.. many more girls out there....

I am done with the texting... not that it may matter but if there is anymore conversation going on it will be by phone and or in person.

For now, I will be picking her up after work and go for a little "Chat" or "Session" and I will feel her up.. i mean out... The only doctor that is in today is the Love Doctor! I am not planning on having yet another damned woman friend.. it is getting very old.

I got some work to do on everything I used to believe about dating...