"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Unusually STRANGE cold approach (HB7)

foreverace87

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INTRO

Alright men...its been over 9 months without engaging High Value Targets (HVTs) so I lowered my bar and decided to start out by opening an HB7 right outside my apartment.

Encounter

Its around 5 pm local time...I am headed out my apartment to get in my car and here I see a blonde in an Air Force uniform in a Acura parking opposite side of me. As I am exiting my apartments, she is on her way to the same entrance that I am exiting from so the face to face meeting would work out perfectly timewise.

Me: Hey! How are you? (with a BIG BRIGHT SMILE)
(HB7 stops and looks at me over her shoulder and I knew this was going to become a problem QUICKLY so I repositioned myself right in front of her but she STILL decided to keep her body pointed away from me)
Hb7: Fine....thank you.
Me: Hey..can I get a female opinion?
(HB7 has a bunch of books held tightly in her hand and she has very confused look, like a look of concern, has heavy makeup, and has her shoulders shrugged tightly into her neck)
Hb7: Yea, whats up?
Me: Well, I am just getting ready to go rescue my friend with girl problems and I would like to know if you would ever date a guy that is still friends with his ex?
Hb7: (Sigh)...well depends....yea I guess why not?
Me: This is actually a two part question. Lets say you are dating a guy thats still friends with his ex and you decide to move in with him. When you move you decide to help him clean and find a box full of his ex's pic next to his bed.
Hb7: (cuts me off) Oh I would get rid of them!
Me: Guess what she did?
Hb7: What? She burnt them and destroyed the whole apartment!
Me: Well...she did including the carpet (I pointed at my apartment...BIG ****ING MISTAKE) ..and you know whats really sad?
Hb7: What?
Me: She burnt some of the pictures of his family that she didnt know.
Hb7: Well..that really sucks. I am actually divorced myself..been there and done that. (this is where it actually gets really weird) She looks down, looks away, and starts walking off without saying anything.



Well, as always, what improvements do you guys recommend here. This is really ****ing weird, her walking off looking all lost. I wanted to transition the conversation into a different routine..maybe the "The Cube" game or something but she didnt give me the chance. I think i did several things wrong on my "first" try in many months but not sure exactly what?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Pimp-sicle

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Good job on cold approaching in the first place.

Two things I saw wrong were:

1) the opinion opener turned into a story (which wasn't bad), but it was a negative story & a little long. Negative story stir negative emotions. Of course there was no way you could've known she had been divorced, but stick to more positive, funny or neutral opinion openers.

2) transition: when you use an opinion opener, it should literally be your "in" with a girl, then quickly transition into building attraction.

In either case you should always consider the first approach you do as a warmup aka your fuvk up approach to get in the flow.

Keep approaching.







PIMP
 

foreverace87

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" ...but it was a negative story & a little long. Negative story stir negative emotions.....when you use an opinion opener, it should literally be your "in" with a girl, then quickly transition into building attraction."

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Well said Pimp-sicle. Girls are all about fun and hearing HAPPY things and laughing. And as you said, I lost the whole point of the approach...to get
"in" with a girl and then IMMEDIATELY transition. Thank you for the valuable but highly needed help.
 

devilkingx2

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why did you tell THAT story? THAT story? wtf? that story was messed up

why don't you make her watch neon genesis evangellion with you on a first date while you're at it

errrr, I don't know if I'd pursue that girl though, she seems to both agree with those actions(because she guessed them) and support them AND have PERSONAL EXPERIENCE

when a chick has personal experience with acting like madea from a tyler perry movie you know you've got a problem
 

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A good opener I use is asking them who lies more, men or women? It becomes interesting and women are more than receptive to engage in the discussion. Remember to escalate to attraction immediately.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Vice

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Woah dude... don't EVER use that particular opinion opener. Go look at some RSD material for solid game tips instead of reading The Game LOL
 

TheCWord

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Ugh. Openers. Girls know about that **** now, you know?
 

TheCWord

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Ok, I finished reading the entire post (I had to stop before because I felt so awkward).

OP, listen to yourself. Using canned openers. Wondering if you should try another routine. "The Cube?"

How about you just try talking to the girl? And let a conversation develop organically?
 

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No disrespect but if they are not genuine opinion openers are so lameeee
 

BigSmooth

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Opinion openers are for noobs. There are so many more smoother ways to open and start talking to a girl than asking her "opinion" on something.

A better opener would have been asking her what those books she was reading.



~BigSmooth
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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