"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Unusual situation

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First time making a thread/post here. Hoping for honest feedback.

About myself, I'm neither someone that routinely goes out to meet women nor someone that has no idea what they are doing when approaching a woman. I've been in a couple of long-term relationships that both died off amicably when we realized we didn't want to pursue anything more in our early/mid twenties.

Current situation:

> Mutual friends party
> Meet girl, talk exclusively with her for 20 minutes
> Get her number, tell her I will call/text her to set up plans for next week
> Text back and set up a date for following week
> Go out, have good time (dinner/movie)
> Eye contact, constant communication, made her laugh, got close in cold movie theater (could be exaggerating on how well it went, all a matter of personal perspective but at the very least it was a good date)
> Send her goodnight text
> No reply
> Text her 2 days later asking if she wants to go out next week
> She takes almost a day to reply and agrees however she can't on the days I set (work), gives two other days that she is available
> I don't want to change my schedule around to her first one and say yes to second
> She hasn't replied in more than a day to the last text

Bit about girl > College degree, down to earth, bring home to mom type from what I can tell so far.

Basically the situation as it is now. The reason I'm asking for advice is because it's gone from hot to cold to her giving options for other days to meet up to not replying again within a decent amount of time. I haven't texted anything excessive/tried to keep most of the conversation for when we meet up, just setting up times to meet with small amount of small talk in between. I think being in relationships for so long made me come off as a bit too strong too soon however feedback would be appreciated as to whether she is playing games, isn't interested, or just has other options.
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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She has low interest. Judge her by her actions ie. taking that long to text you back... and remember, a girl who is interested in you won't confuse you. Did you escalate on the date? Kiss her? Even if she does reply to your latest text and get a date set up, be prepared for her to flake.

Also do yourself a favour and don't ever send 'goodnight' texts. I don't even send them to girlfriends. Next time you take a girl on a date, forget the whole dinner and a movie idea. Do you have a dog? Take her and your dog to the local park/beach..take her to mini golf..take her on an ACTION date.
 

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Fireballs said:
She has low interest. Judge her by her actions and remember, a girl who is interested in you won't confuse you. Did you escalate on the date? Kiss her? Even if she does reply to your latest text and get a date set up, be prepared for her to flake.

Also do yourself a favour and don't ever send 'goodnight' texts. I don't even send them to girlfriends. Next time you take a girl on a date, forget the whole dinner and a movie idea. Do you have a dog? Take her and your dog to the local park/beach..take her to mini golf..take her on an ACTION date.
I kissed her on the cheek at the end/hug. We got close at the theater. Not much more you can do in such a situation on the first date. Like I previously stated, she is a normal/down to earth girl and not a club sloot. She was down to meet up the day after I sent the text if I would have changed my plans however I wasn't prepared to do that. I don't have a dog. Thanks for the advice though.
 

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1) This is not an unusual situation.

2) Find more women.

3) Stop over-analysing, especially a situation where you've met someone once.

4) Don't ever use the words 'snuggle' or 'snuggled' in public. Ever. You are a man, not a f*cking baby panda.
 

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TheMonkeyKing said:
1) This is not an unusual situation.

2) Find more women.

3) Stop over-analysing, especially a situation where you've met someone once.

4) Don't ever use the words 'snuggle' or 'snuggled' in public. Ever. You are a man, not a f*cking baby panda.
Thanks, you're right about every point.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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TheMonkeyKing said:
1) This is not an unusual situation.

2) Find more women.

3) Stop over-analysing, especially a situation where you've met someone once.

4) Don't ever use the words 'snuggle' or 'snuggled' in public. Ever. You are a man, not a f*cking baby panda.
This is just so Fu**ing funny!! True, but hilarious!
 

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Green....

Greensticker said:
First time making a thread/post here. Hoping for honest feedback.

About myself, I'm neither someone that routinely goes out to meet women nor someone that has no idea what they are doing when approaching a woman. I've been in a couple of long-term relationships that both died off amicably when we realized we didn't want to pursue anything more in our early/mid twenties.

Current situation:

> Mutual friends party
> Meet girl, talk exclusively with her for 20 minutes
> Get her number, tell her I will call/text her to set up plans for next week
> Text back and set up a date for following week
> Go out, have good time (dinner/movie)
> Eye contact, constant communication, made her laugh, got close in cold movie theater (could be exaggerating on how well it went, all a matter of personal perspective but at the very least it was a good date)
> Send her goodnight text
> No reply
> Text her 2 days later asking if she wants to go out next week
> She takes almost a day to reply and agrees however she can't on the days I set (work), gives two other days that she is available
> I don't want to change my schedule around to her first one and say yes to second
> She hasn't replied in more than a day to the last text

As Fireballs said, there is probably low interest with this one.

Bit about girl > College degree, down to earth, bring home to mom type from what I can tell so far.

Basically the situation as it is now. The reason I'm asking for advice is because it's gone from hot to cold to her giving options for other days to meet up to not replying again within a decent amount of time. A good basic rule of thumb is (whether 1st date or 20th date) ask them out once, if they refuse with no counter-offer, give one more alternative, then it's up to them to make the next move. I haven't texted anything excessive/tried to keep most of the conversation for when we meet up, just setting up times to meet with small amount of small talk in between. Good. But I wouldn't even bother with the small talk, unless you've been seeing a chick for 6months. I think being in relationships for so long made me come off as a bit too strong too soon however feedback would be appreciated as to whether she is playing games, isn't interested, or just has other options. She may have other options, but your main concern is her interest level to you and how she (or any other chick) shows that. It is not easy to break out of the neediness cycle of relationships. I am just coming out the other side of that myself, having had three fairly difficult LTRs in my twenties. If there is one piece of advice I can offer, it is to become truly independent of outcome, even if you find yourself in a relationship again.

Let us know if you have any more specific questions.
 
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