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[nostalgic60]

Whatever the venue and activity of your date, make sure it's where you can shine being your best self. If you go to a restaurant, the staff would recognize you and you can engage in brief smooth talk, that sort of thing. The manager (plus, if she is an attractive woman) would come and say, "Mr FDD, haven't seen you in a while, how have you been?" That would look good.

The attraction of polar opposites work for a while, but there has to be a common ground (be it a goal, sex, worldview) for LTR. If she is social and you're not, that would balance the relationship somewhat in social situations. She would offer something you need to work on.

Yes, Corky Humor.... whatever that is

 

[VladPatton]

Girls with plans scheduled for weeks and weeks in advance always have the best excuses to refuse dates. The 24th is a very long time from now. It's right before a very major holiday as well. The chances of her flaking are extremely high.
Then there's New Year's a week later, so of course being the popular girl she is, she'll have amazing plans set up for the 31st also. I think you should let it go before you get severely disappointed. You can try and see where it takes you, but like I said in my previous post, it's too late now, and all these sudden actions make you appear out of character, unusual, and strange. There is a time window for zeroing in on a chick. Your window is huge when she's interested, small when she's not, and gets progressively smaller as time goes by in both situations when no action is taken.

Keep us posted as to what happens.

 

[LDD]

Tks guys! I see where you're coming from Vlad, but I want to take this to the end and see where it ends. I don't like to give things up halfway. Anyway, though, I'm already mentally preparing myself for her to flake, and if she does, I'll follow Girlschase.com's advice and give myself another 2 tries. And if that fails, I'll move on.
(http://www.girlschase.com/content/what-do-when-girls-flake)

For the attraction window thing, she used to be all over me and stuff when the attraction was at it's peak; it's much much lesser now, although I'm sure it's still far from the auto-rejection zone at this point.

I should be able to post the results on 24 Dec.
It's either do or die.

 

[Die Hard]

Sorry if this sounds harsh but you better hear the truth from someone:
You are stupid and naive.

Go ahead and follow your do-or-die-attitude, reality will hit you in the face soon enough. Hopefully you'll learn your lesson from it...

Look man, I'm not a master Don Juan but I am much more experienced in these matters, as you suggested yourself. You want me to elaborate on why I think she's gonna flake?

1. Personal experience. In my dealings with women I've found that 9 out of 10 times when a girl rejects my date proposal and wants to reschedule a long time into the future, she'll flake on me. It doesn't matter if she has a good reason like going on a trip, already having made other plans etc. blah blah blah. The details of all those girls' stories don't really matter, it's just simple mathematics: basically EVERY TIME a girl reschedules a date far into the future, she's gonna flake.
That's my personal experience and I know you are gonna try to convince yourself that I am not you and you are not me, so maybe in your case it's gonna be different blah blah. Go ahead, do what you want, I'm just giving you my advice...
Perhaps other guys here can confirm my personal experience and tell you they have experienced the same thing.

2. The Laws of attraction and interest. When a chick feels attracted to you and wants to be with you, she will find a way to be with you. Suppose it was YOU who made other plans for this weekend and going on a trip next week (or whenever the fvck this wh0re of yours is going on her stupid trip). Suppose this girl asked YOU on a date with her this weekend... I bet your azz that you would find a way to get out of those other plans you made this weekend, and if you really couldn't get out of that, you would at least find another moment this weekend, or this week, or next week, to meet up with her before you are about to leave on your trip.
You like her, don't you? You're very eager to go on a date with this girl! So you will definitely find an hour or two in your free time SOMEWHERE before you leave on your trip, coz you really don't want to have to wait more than three weeks to be with her.

But she isn't like that... She is not in a hurry, she is not very eager to meet up with you. If she was, you bet your azz that she would have found a moment to be with you before she leaves on her trip.
In other words, this girl has low interest for you. She is not looking forward to the 24th at all, I guarantee it to you. And when the 24th comes, she will probably have forgotten about this supposed date and she will simply not be interested to go on a date and make up some bullsh!t excuse at the time to flake on you.

Hence, I'm telling you to forget about this girl and this date that you're supposed to have with her somewhere in eternity, lol.
You have a scarcity mentality, you are so happy that this one girl showed interest for you in the past and you're jumping on this opportunity like it's the chance of a lifetime, like it's the only chance at "love" that you got. Which makes you outcome dependent, there's a lot at stake for you... If she becomes your girlfriend, it'll be happy happy joy joy for you but if she flakes on you, you'll feel very miserable and sad.

You need to grow the fvck up and see things for what they are. You did a pinky-promise hook with her that you two won't flake on the date?!?!?! Wow, you are still living in the blue pill world, where boys and girls fall in love with each other and live out Disney fantasies and high school romance like in the movies, all sweet and fluffy, with rainbows and pink hearts flying around.

If you're gonna jump out of a plane, you FIRST make sure that you have a parachute. If you're gonna deal with women, you FIRST make sure that you protect your heart.
You're not doing that. If you hope and expect to go on a date with this girl in three weeks and she then flakes on you, then your sadness and disappointment will be YOUR OWN STUPID FAULT.

Good luck with wasting the next three weeks of your life, my friend....




And to the guys who are advicing LDD on how to act if he gets a date with her etc. YOU ARE SCREWING HIM OVER. The dude has put his hopes on the 24th and his emotional investment is gonna grow and grow and grow in the next three weeks. When the 24th finally arrives, his emotional investment in relation to the outcome will have grown sky high, and when that outcome turns out to be her flaking on him (which is very probable), it's gonna mess him up big time!

Anyone who is giving LDD other advice than to put this girl and the possible date off his mind, is guilty to the disappointment he will experience when she flakes on him.

 

[disgustipated]

I'm with ya man. My advice is more a tactical last ditch effort IF it happens.

1. I think the girl IS going to flake. We all know this type. Too busy to be bothered. He had a small window likely to nail it, most likely closed and now he is playing into her 'oh my life is sooo busy' frame where it's super easy to flake.

2. If he actually gets the date I think by the way he expresses himself, sorry man, that he isnt socially calibrated well enough to succeed.

BUT, I think he should because of this! Maybe I should of expressed this but OP, sorry, you have a long way to go and the only way to make any progress is by taking risks and with that you will take your lumps.

Most likely he isn't getting this girl. He needs to prepare for failure but what would you have him do? Nothing? He won't make any progress by non action even if she's not worth it. If he doesn't want to one day be able to be calibrated enough to not have to come here and ask basic questions of how to interact with females then fine, do nothing. No shame in that if that's not his goal.

I gave him a template that has worked for me, and my best wishes.

 

[Die Hard]

I'm feelin' ya, disgustipapa. I just think the best thing to do for him here, is putting the whole matter off his mind. Him preparing himself (or us preparing him) for a possible date over 3 weeks from now, is only gonna mess with his mind. It's like standing in the club, gazing at your target for 15 minutes, trying to figure out how to approach her. The longer you stand there, the more you think, the worse and unnatural the eventual approach will be. Let him deal with how to act on the date, when the date IS THERE, not +3 weeks up front.

And that's assuming the date happens, coz chances of a flake are high here... And I'm afraid this fella will not be able to handle a flake very well, especially if he has been preparing for it in his mind for over three weeks!
Protecting him for big feelings of disappointment seems more important here than advicing him on how to act on a date which will probably turn out as a flake... Those two things are actually contradicting, the more you talk to him about how to behave on the date, the more he will mentally prepare for the date, and the more he thinks about the date, the bigger the disappointment will be when she flakes on him. He should put the whole thing off his mind and go approach 10 other bytches in the coming weeks, not putting all his eggs in this basket.

But hey, I guess it doesn't matter anyway. He needs to experience things for himself after all. This situation just reminds me of many times in my own dating life and I wish to save him from the disappointment that I experienced myself. But we all have to learn things through making mistakes, I guess

 

[LDD]

Tks Disgustipated and Die Hard! Especially to DieHard, the elaboration of 1) and 2) has really opened up my mind to the situation. Actually, though, I'm still gonna wait and see what happens on the 24th, bu YES, I'm gonna be preparing for her to flake totally (or show up with her friends) on that day, but there's no turning back now cos' I'm really curious to know what's gonna happen.

And it's hard to kill curiousity like that

But the next 3 weeks, I'll just continue with my life and slowly put less and less emphasis on the date.
For me, if I don't see a girl for 3 weeks, my mind will slowly start to forget her bit by bit somewhat

Good day and tks guys! Will update again.
LDD