Unless you are really hot you are better off not wasting your time on Tinder

[El Payaso]

"the bottom 80% of men are fighting over the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are fighting over the top 20% of men."



https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a

 

[bigneil]

Great info.

Explanation

• A girl who is a 10 (lower right) will only like a guy who is a 10.
• A girl who is an 8 will only like a guy who is a 9.6.
• A girl who is a 6 will only like a guy who is a 9.2.

Meanwhile

• A guy who is a 6 will like a girl who is a 1.
• A guy who is an 8 will like a girl who is a 2.

 

[ubercat]

Fvck me sideways America is hell for guys. I get play from HB 8 + waitresses all the time. And no I m not tipping or promising them a photoshoot.

Now let's say of the ones that consistently flirt 1 in 10 would put out. I m persistent... I still get an 8. Does this not happen in the US of Agony?

 

[QuadDeuces]

The funny thing is, the 9's on Tinder are 5's in real life.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

OK...in the spirit of Savaronela and the Luddites, this calls for a Bonfire of the Vanities!

Smash and burn all smart phones men!

Steve Jobs may you burn in hell!.... I take that back.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Meanwhile

• A thirst-bucket guy who is a 6 will like match to a girl who is a 1.
• A thirst-bucket guy who is an 8 will like match to a girl who is a 2.

Corrected.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

The funny thing is, the 9's on Tinder are 5's in real life.

EDIT: there aren't any 9's on Tinder; male, female or otherwise. Full stop. Genuine 8+'s don't need online dating. But the facts here will translate directly to RL too.

Of course some emotional guys will look at this and assume that women are somehow to blame, because they somehow refuse to lower their standards. However, what this fundamentally shows is that the population of men on the whole actually enable more low value women to have sex/relations etc, than the population of women do of low value men.

So, thank you *science* for pretty much confirming all of my latest, somehow controversial opinions as valid.

-Women are far, far ahead of the game than men, regardless of their own value. If a woman is only going for 8's, 9's and 10's, from an evolutionary stand point, she's doing herself and the species as a whole a massive favour, in terms of reproductive success strategy.
For all the moaning that goes on in this forum, emotard MGTOW types still clearly expect women to be of high value, but refuse to observe and abide by their own lofty standards, which is why their emotional bleating is redundant. For all you can say about women, at least they appear to uphold some sort of standards in this respect, as shown in the data.

-In that same light, regardless of a woman's own value, her reaction toward a man is therefore almost entirely a reflection of his value, rather than hers. To all intents and purposes, as the graph clearly shows, and as I have explained ad nauseum, (most) men will bang anyone, where most women will not bang just anyone. Thus of course they hold the upper hand, along with the top 20% of men. If a man wants to start gaining the upper hand, he needs to become more valuable and develop better standards, it's not any more complicated than that. You are the average value of the five people you spend most of your time with.

Until the graph starts to show a more direct correlation, (i.e. ALL men start upholding and adhering to higher standards), all women and highest value men will continue to hold the best hands at the table.

NB. To assume that this pattern applies to looks alone is a mistake. It is well known that men and women are attracted to different things.

 

[ubercat]

Geez what a reductionist world view. My best mate is an artist type. Not broke but rents. Never works out. In his 40s and smokes. Top bloke. Very much his own man and despises the Herd. Red pill. Magnificent beard. Well read and good talker. Been fvcking 8+ chicks for years.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Geez what a reductionist world view. My best mate is an artist type. Not broke but rents. Never works out. In his 40s and smokes. Top bloke. Very much his own man and despises the Herd. Red pill. Magnificent beard. Well read and good talker. Been fvcking 8+ chicks for years.

So, what would you value him on a 1-10 scale? To me, he sounds like he's in the top 30% anyway, regardless of his being an artist and being a tenant, etc. Which is obviously proven, by virtue of his own success. Sounds like you don't value him too highly.

 

[bigneil]

Corrected.

"thirst-bucket guy" online simplifies to "guy".

 

[bigneil]

I'm thinking Tinder guys would like my women a little more than SS guys claim to.

 

[ubercat]

My best mate. That title takes years and actions to earn. What I m saying is by the physique, money, social circle scale often pushed by the value crowd here he doesn't rate.

 

[sosousage]

Online Dating will never be useful because all most popular platforms favorize women. Tinder/Badoo/POF made them think they are special. App owners have no reason to change it because horny men pay a lot for Premium on these apps.

I had best luck with Tinder. OLD women advantage is all around the world like that already probably. Im from Germany

My advices:
- muscles, no clothes selfie
- car, friends, job
- entertain them a bit, make them laugh, get their facebook and then ignore them lol, reply barely (basic mind games)
- DONT GIVE A F!!!!!!

If you want to use Tinder you need to know that its not going anywhere. If you have good photo then SOMETIMES you will get a woman from there but mainly cause they are new to OLD or because they left last guy for really small reason// and will quickly replace you with one of the tens of guys messaging her daily.

I rate myself high yet only women 0.1/10 are interested in me (except my ex that was from tinder, she was hot)

Sometimes I get someone from Tinder who has no face deformed and no over fat body (or both, sick!)... But thats because my picture looks like a model (even tho im not and its just how the picture was made, angle)

For me I Still Use Tinder when Im waiting for something (for example 10min wait in shop queue or anything) But if you do that in your free time then you are likely to get deppresed very quick.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

What I m saying is by the physique, money, social circle scale often pushed by the value crowd here he doesn't rate.

So basically, you're saying, despite being his own man, being successful with high value women, clearly having quite profound intrinsic value to earn best friend status, just because he doesn't adhere to the typical social constructions of mate value that you list (i.e. basically material wealth), he doesn't really hold any value in the dating market....?

Your message is very confused. You're projecting your blue pill world view and system of worth on to a guy who clearly does hold quite high red pill value status. Time to make up your mind, what your value system actually is, because your man obviously has his pretty much sorted out.

 

[ubercat]

So rather than making this a std SS slugfest and trashing the thread let's explore our common ground. I agree completely with you. Obviously I m not a fan of the std value scale. If I ve read the article correctly the scale referenced physical attractiveness. The example of my friend is to illustrate that these categories r easily transcended and guys shouldn't accept these limitations.

BTW your first response to my post was an ad hominem attack. A std rhetorical trick. I prefer an inquisitorial to an adversarial dialogue.

 

[bigneil]

Online women are way raunchier than strippers.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

BTW your first response to my post was an ad hominem attack. A std rhetorical trick. I prefer an inquisitorial to an adversarial dialogue.

Fair enough. Rhetoric is often misplaced, or entirely self-serving. However, personally I find myself having to draw upon this kind of persuasive tactic here sometimes, with more closed minds. So excuse any insincerity you might perceive; it is unintentional.

 

[Dingo]

OK...in the spirit of Savaronela and the Luddites, this calls for a Bonfire of the Vanities!

Great obscure references.... Bet 90% of the guys here won't get it... Bravo...

 

[Red Legg]

I must be smokin hot then since 2015 I have fvcked about 30 Tinder women.

 

[sosousage]

I must be smokin hot then since 2015 I have fvcked about 30 Tinder women.

paste your photos mate