"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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search1ng

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So You're sitting in class, and a cute/hot attractive girls sits next to you. You're new. You don't know a lot of people, only the few that you've approached and started a conversation with.

Naturally you start up a conversation, get her interested and laughing, towards the end of it all you ask for her number and hopefully things move along nicely.

There in lies my question, am i asking for numbers too soon? Obviously at parties and other locations asking for numbers comes at an earlier time because chances are you won't see that person again if you don't. However, in university classes you'll be seeing them pretty often. Does this matter?

Would really like to hear your opinion in these matters.
Cheers,
Search1ng.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You have a captive audience so be patient
 

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Ah, so wait a bit and ask for it after class? after a few classes?
 

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Yeah after a few classes. Just get all the girls laughing and stuff and then you can get their numbers later. No need to rush.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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If they like you, there's no such thing as "too soon".

If they like you but not "enough yet" and you ask for the number in a nervous or needy fashion, you reveal your intentions and they will understandibly probably go cold. What guy or girl wants a girl or guy who asks for their phone number with the obvious undertone "I soooo like you, I need to get hold of you!"

Would you?

Incidently, that might also happen with someone who's really into you from the get go.

If you do it in a relaxed fashion with an "Hey, you're quite cool. I'd like to see more of you" UNDERTONE (important distinction) then it's a compliment and people will gladly do you that favour. Since you see them more often, another little trick is not to call them at all when you get the number. If enough time passes by, and they see you again, if they ask why you never called, you know there's definite interest.

If you do it the relaxed way and you still fail, you either weren't laid-back enough about it, or you failed to interpret their buying signals properly and there was not enough interest.

Of course, if you see them more often, you might just as well improve rapport a little bit more before you ask for numbers. Especially if you're unsure of the buying signals.

Just be laid-back about it. As with all things in these affairs, non-neediness is the key.

Good luck, whatever you decide to do. :up:
 

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I'm in university as well and I feel like i'm really beginning to figure this out. I've got one girl who wants to come hang out at my place, and i'm starting a few more projects today with this new game plan:
Man, I don't know about your classes but mine are huge- like 200 people. I rarely go to class, and people always sit in different places. So you should get her number right away after the class, to my experiance, just before she leaves. Than, phone her and ask about what she's doing before/after your next class and meet up for coffee- cheap, I can do this with my meal plan. I find its better to talk to them out of class, you can actually talk to them then.
When you are sitting next to her, don't totally ignore her but still focus on the class. Its good not to say much. Friendly gestures are good though, offer her a piece of gum, or something, just get some light kino/contact(when you do this, look into her eyes, give her a good smile. She should smile back). Don't overdue the friendly gestures that much, but basically use your body language you know shes there but you aren't a big distraction to her (i've been reading the 48 laws of power- you should too.)
By doing this you build a bit of and an image of power, tension before, than after, she'll be more interested in the things you say when you go for coffee after. This is a good way to connect with them and build rapport without even having to say anything.
After your coffee thing, you can either ask them on a date, or just come hang out after class one day. Than she might decide to stay a while...
 

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When I was in college everyone is new. I would be the new guy every semster. My UNI had 30000 students so you hardly every see the same people. Throw out all of your game, ask as many girls out as you can, invite them over to the bar etc. The only time I saw the same people often was at the gym or the same bar etc..

Just DO IT..
 
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