Unfortunately, BigJimbo May Be Spot On.

[The Mad Ghost]

Was reading this story today.

Young hot Eastern European girl, 23, from Ukraine had met this guy over the internet, over here. She travelled all the way up to see him and within 3 weeks, she moved in with him. She had all her expectations of her dream job (working in a Casino) to fulfill the American Dream, but chose to give it up to be with him.

How many western women can you say would do that.

She's left her family, friends and loved ones, and is killing herself to be with this guy. The doode is or was a hacker, in his 40's, for a profession. I'm not saying these foreign women are 100% insurance for a traditional family, as they are liberal too, but to me, that is loyalty.

 

[SandHawk]

Yea, bro, real loyalty happens within 3 weeks after meeting someone in person. Especially since they then move in with you, give up their "dream job" to live on your expense instead, spend your money on expensive clothing and marry you as soon as possible, only to divorce you within a year and take half your money with her. Or never divorce and just cheat on your ass all the godd*mn time.

 

[terran2k]

probably because he wasn't a puss-y ass nerd; but yeah 3 weeks isnt a whole bunch of time

 

[The Mad Ghost]

Yea, bro, real loyalty happens within 3 weeks after meeting someone in person. Especially since they then move in with you, give up their "dream job" to live on your expense instead, spend your money on expensive clothing and marry you as soon as possible, only to divorce you within a year and take half your money with her. Or never divorce and just cheat on your ass all the godd*mn time.

Maybe using the word loyalty was overboard, But, still, how many western women would do that. American Women are Queen's of goldigging. I would think that a foreign girl with nothing to lose, would have a more genuine reason to be with you, not just for you money. The guy in the story didn't have any money to note, doode is a hacker.

I'm not denying what your saying, I've also heard of many stories of these foreign girls, still in-contact with their husbands, boyfriends and whoever back home and still fvcking them. But going back to the sap back in the States for the money and leisure.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Meeting a dude on the internet and giving up your career/family/friends to move in with him after 3 weeks really isn't, you know, a badge of honor. Not for European women or Western women.

Sounds kinda desperate actually.

And I hear stories of dumb chicks "in love" and sucker-for-love guys doing this stuff all the time. Hell, the Las Vegas chapel industry is built around these people. "You're hot! I'm lonely! Let's move in together!"

I'm not breaking your balls. I'm just saying...

 

[theunflushables]

Of course they are going to be "loyal" the guys that bring them over here are their fvcking meal ticket.

Any woman from a second or third world country wouldn't pass that opportunity up. How many of them do you think split with 50% after they've achieved citizenship status? How many are sending money back to their families?

Eastern European women are just as selfish as western women or any other woman in the world. And honestly, women are just as selfish as men. Its intrinsic to our nature to be out for ourselves.

 

[sodbuster]

yep, they can get a green card in 2 years[or immediately if they claim abuse,theres even a TV report on it on a phoenix station.

 

[The Mad Ghost]

Limbo - state of oblivion: a state in which somebody or something is neglected or is simply left in oblivion

Is anybody else here, how do you get out? Because this sucks monkey balls. How do I forget this stuff, is it possible to get back to being a normal guy (AFC), having known the information provided in the community.

 

[theunflushables]

Limbo - state of oblivion: a state in which somebody or something is neglected or is simply left in oblivion

Is anybody else here, how do you get out? Because this sucks monkey balls. How do I forget this stuff, is it possible to get back to being a normal guy (AFC), having known the information provided in the community.

You really can't go back. Being in the community is like being Neo in The Matrix. Once you swallow the red pill, you can't go back to life as you used to know. You can try, but everything you learned will be sitting in the back of your mind, nagging at you.

Plus, why would you want to go back?

 

[The Mad Ghost]

Plus, why would you want to go back?

I'm unstable like this. Everyday that goes by, I'm getting more and more p!ssed. Theres a ton of sh!t in my eye, and I can't wipe it out. Only thing is, I'm so engraved into the game, it has become a lifestyle or hobby where forfitting is out of the question. I can't even get the girls with low-self esteem. There must be a way back into not knowing about this stuff or forgetting about it, entirely.

 

[bigjohnson]

80% of marriages between American men and foreign women are still intact. Seems like better odds than the 40% or so you get with the local product.

Spin it as you will.

 

[mikeyb]

80% of marriages between American men and foreign women are still intact. Seems like better odds than the 40% or so you get with the local product.

Spin it as you will.

Where does the 80% come from? As for the 40% success rate you quote it's actually closer to 60% according to http://www.divorcereform.org/rates.html
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce#United_States

By the way, in the Wikipedia article it says that wives file for divorce in approximately 2/3 of the cases - maybe foreign women just have more realistic expectations of marriage. It doesn't necessarily mean they make better wives.

 

[bigjohnson]

Where does the 80% come from? As for the 40% success rate you quote it's actually between 50% and 60% according to http://www.divorcereform.org/rates.html

It's the INS figure, they track this statistic very closely. Any way you spin it, 20% divorce rate vs 40% or 50% is .... better. Right? (American, UK boy, the stat isn't for the UK)

 

[mikeyb]

It's the INS figure, they track this statistic very closely. Any way you spin it, 20% divorce rate vs 40% or 50% is .... better. Right? (American, UK boy, the stat isn't for the UK)

It's a little better but without an explanation as to why, it's not significant. You get a similar improvement if you look at the divorce rate between college graduates (around 20% in the US). So I'd hold off on mail ordered Russian brides if I were you .

 

[BigJimbo]

Who cares if I might be right. Seriously, if you travel to where I have been and dated what I have dated you would agree. Girls are desperate for many reasons. If you knew what guys in much of this world were like you would feel for the girls. Lots of dudes beat the s--- out of girls, demand to be treated as a king, drink themselves to death, and are just a mess.

http://www.****france.com/topic/380...ge-leaves-women-lost-for-love.html&replies=16
There you go. Follow that story to the BBC. Latvia is messed up in many ways. Great place though if you already have some money. Crazy place as well. LOTS of big money in the hands of guys that scare many girls. You see amazing cars with odd plates. The places I go to are like out of a weird movie. Scary dudes (by that I mean guys who look like they could have you eliminated with a push of a button). I dated three girls while there. All three were gorgeous, traditional, dressed to kill, and were scared sh------ of any guy who had money. Strange things happen there. Lots of hookers, so you can't pickup something from the city center! Go to the university area or the suburbs. If you want a gangster beach town you go to Jurmala.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tow1FPCAqO4&feature=related
Those cars are basically all in a small section of town (Centrs).

 

[Just a Shot Away]

Wow, Eastern European girls will marry rich American guys in exchange for money and citizenship? I'm shocked. This is big, big news.

Yep, Big Jimbo's message (America is trash, Ukraine is paradise) was completely spot-on. Awesome deduction.

 

[HeMan]

my friend married a super hot russian and he has never been so unhappy in his life. it is seriously 90% her fault too why he is so unhappy. she is just so cold and unfriendly.

she has made his life miserable and its only a matter of time she takes a percentage of his assets from him once they divorce

 

[The Mad Ghost]

Wow, Eastern European girls will marry rich American guys in exchange for money and citizenship? I'm shocked. This is big, big news.

Yep, Big Jimbo's message (America is trash, Ukraine is paradise) was completely spot-on. Awesome deduction.

1. He wasn't rich, Internet Hacker
2. She had prior citizenship 6 months earlier, according to the story

 

[f283000]

Brothers you got other options as well not just eastern europe. Don't forget latin women who also want to meet you!

I can understand the guys that order brides. If I started making 6 figures annually I would quit the game and order me one too. No more clubbing, no more paying for dates, no more sarging, no more approaching. Check out some of the girls from calimatchmaker's myspace (Colombia). I mean how could you not want to order

this gal (what a body wow)

supermodel material

mmmm great body

she can dance for me anytime

Here's the photo album of the girls of cali matchmaker's myspace

Check out the afc's with the girls. I'm sure all these guys are successful and have bank AND PROBABLY HAVE BEEN BURNED BY AMERICAN WOMEN that's why they went down to Colombia. They just need a litle game

This guy seems happy

 

[BigJimbo]

Wow, Eastern European girls will marry rich American guys in exchange for money and citizenship? I'm shocked. This is big, big news.

Yep, Big Jimbo's message (America is trash, Ukraine is paradise) was completely spot-on. Awesome deduction.

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/07/21/ukraine_girls_really_knock_biden_out
Funny. FP is a very well-respected policy magazine. Guess what. The Vice-President of America says that Ukrainian girls are the BEST! Yes, he said it. Hey, he is straight like me. I am guessing that you are a confused teenage boy in America with mommy issues. Most American guys like old women because of a lack of a decent mother figure in their life. Mothers in America like to f--- more than raise their sons.