Unexpectedly ****blocked and outshined..

[xHiGHPoTeniaL]

OK so i never know where to start with these posts but yes, as title says i was basically ****blocked and ran out of steam last night(if not outshined i guess u could say too) by a friend of mine whose girlfriend was passed out on the couch next to us.

This friend i chill with earlier yesterday says yea come by later on, my girl is gunna be here with a cute friend of hers from college. I'm like cool, just what i need right now. something easier that will be one on oneish with not too many distractions. The setup at this house was far from ideal for gaming tho because we chilled in one big ass room with a TV on in the background, half watching watever stupid movie/show was on.

I introduce myself upon arrival and just try to ease in to the convo's. I try bringing up some interesting shyt I've done lately but its tough cuz i hafta tell every story to this spread out group, idk just not my strong suit at this point. Its not rly possible to have a one on one convo yet because youd have to yell across the room and the girls are on the couch while my friend and I in the kitchen area(no more room on the couch rly).

But another thing I notice is the second I get there I can tell my friend is acting different(he has this g/f for as long as I've known him so Im just learning how he is with females, but always knew he had some game). And its like he's putting on this show, which at first I guess I sorta in on. We're BOTH making jokes, teasing the girl, telling stories(mine are quickly followed by something bigger n better from my friend tho i felt) and at sum point I hear the girl thats visiting say, "o (my friends name) your soo funny!" And thats when i'm like wtf happened here?

As the nite goes on I see him doin all the moves, playful touching here and there, making connections(me too! type shyt), and just general gaming behavior which i was attempting myself(made some good connections), just not as successful or memorable. I'm pretty positive that at first she I had her intrigued by me and she was giving a lot of eye contact and such but I lost steam somewhere during the night and would get ****ed up in the head when i saw my friend doin the same shyt but better.

I'll be honest from here on I was kinda pissed, just cuz this guy's girl is half passed out on the couch and now the 3 of us are hanging out doin shots and whatnot, and I'm getting less and less interest from this chick. ANd to be completely honest, I just totally ran out of shyt to say at sum point which i think would be when, had i been alone with her, I would try to escalate and ask more personal questions but it was like I lost all connections I had built up.

I think maybe I was there for too long (from about 10pm-3am) but when i left, it was bad. I knew it was a lost cause but when i left was just like "hey, was nice meeting you x" and then got some totally awkard hug/kiss(cheek of course). ughhh. ill be honest my friends behavior didnt suprize me one bit but it did **** my game up hardcore. What can i do to not get outshined like this again? Also any tips for macking it in these types of situations?

I mean despite the very large loss of respect for my friend (trying to make your g/f's friends wanna **** u is an interesting way to keep a relationship going) I need to learn to deal with these situations because a married friend of mine does the SAME EXACT shyt whenever a girl is around and I feel like I'm in all out competition during times we chill when others are around which gets very annoying afterwhile.

wow i'm so bad at keeping these short, sry!

 

[Kailex]

And the WHOLE, ENTIRE time... she was LOVING it.
She was absolutely loving the sparring between you and your "friend". Trust me, she could tell and she was probably egging it on.

Next time you start to see the subtle increase in this happening... just leave. He was setting this up for you and then went back on it? Hey, that's fine. It's all part of the game, but DO NOT feed into it. Don't follow his lead and try to game him out of it.

You think that girl didn't realize what was going on?

I'd never let it go that far.

If he wants to pull that stuff with his g/f's friend... I'd let him.
That's his problem to deal with later on. He potentially stands to lose a g/f, the other chick, and a friend.

If I were you, I wouldn't hang out with that guy again if he's going to be pulling that stuff on you. It's just not worth it.

At the end of it... who won? HER. Because she saw the whole thing happened and her gina was tingling solely on the attention she was getting.

 

[xHiGHPoTeniaL]

so what if it hadnt been my friend and just some random dude. just be out? dj's dont need to compete or sumthing like that?

also HIS g/f invited me back ovr there today cuz they're playing beer pong right now. guessin i should avoid that?

 

[Ease]

He was definitely doing the right thing for himself, just sucked for you.

He could have layed off and been a wingman though, you should have slipped in a quiet word.

Flirting with your girlfriends best friends is gold.

 

[Kailex]

Not sure slipping in a quiet word would have helped in this case. The friend obviously didn't care about moving in to this girl. I'm sure if High would have said something, the friend would have responded indifferently.

High, you don't have to avoid anything.

You just know WHAT'S UP from now on.

And I don't "compete". At least that's ME.
That's a tough road to travel down. It's easier to game someone when that person isn't already being talked to. Why waste time and energy on what could turn out to be a bust? Besides, like I said, women LOVE that type of thing. Knowing that two guys are trying to game them?

Biggest attention rush ever.

Just go and have fun, and whatever happens, happens. Act aloof, like you don't care if he's trying to game that chick. Because you shouldn't.

I'd just go just to drink all of their booze.

 

[xHiGHPoTeniaL]

Great advice. i'm leavin now to drink up everything and then beat them in pong. this should be a good warm up for a date i'm supposed to hav later with that other chick i've written about.. thanks kailex.

 

[Robert28]

here's what i would do. go back over there since his g/f invited you. act like nothing happened the other night. i bet ANYTHING he is going to act TOTALLY different when it's just the 3 of you. might even be a little awkward for him since you were there to witness him gaming this other girl. i bet if you mentione ANYTHING about the other night he will quickly jump in and change the subject. this has happened to me and you just have to learn from it. i now know not to go out with certain friends when i'm trying to meet women, or not to bring women i like around certain friends.

 

[vatoloco]

High, you know what the problem was? You basically went on a group date, which had a guy that had much better game than you. Well actually that was just the beginning. You hung around way too long. You offered your name. You didn't isolate/escalate.

Did you have an agreement with this "friend" that you wouldn't CB each other? If not, it's every man for himself. What do you do so that you don't have to worry about your "friend" CB'ing you? Don't include him in your gaming activities, that's what you do!

A true friend realizes that if you're trying to game a chick and you guys have good rapport, he steps aside... unless he's like this buddy of mine. He completely gets blinded by a chick he likes and he just barges in there. Of course, he always C&Bs and we always give him a hard time. But, that's a whole other story...

You're going back for another beating? C'mon guy, just go on your other date...

 

[L B]

Whether or not you friend has better game than you doesn't matter. If he knew you were interested in this girl, he should have been smart enough to play the support role of a good wingman. If he can't be your wingman in times of need, you might want to reconsider who your true friends are.

 

[backbreaker]

group dates ****ing suck. it's great if you are the best catch there.

basically, if 3 guys go on a group update with 3 girls, unless there are some LTR's going on.. the best catch guy is basically choosing from the 3 women.

the two women who get left out are gonna be pissed and no nookie for you


get a good wing or go solo. going solo is vastly underrated.

 

[backbreaker]

Whether or not you friend has better game than you doesn't matter. If he knew you were interested in this girl, he should have been smart enough to play the support role of a good wingman. If he can't be your wingman in times of need, you might want to reconsider who your true friends are.

my friends and i never went by this. when i was back home in little rock i basically had 2 best friends. we all were good looking guys and women just have preferences. regardless of how hot i thought one was.. if one was feeling brad ("one of my freinds) then i'd back off and play my role. we made a great trio becuase there was no real jealousy when it came to women.

there are going to be a time when your friend is feeling someone and she's feeling you. it's dating karma.

i remember i went on a date, actualkly fvcked this girl who met my best friend and just feel for him. could honestly care less. it's just pvssy man it's not that serious.

hell we went on a double date afterwards lol.

 

[xHiGHPoTeniaL]

I guess this would fall into the group date but once the couple starts doin their g/f b/f thing(ex:a kiss or talking/arguing), its just the 2 of us and there are opportunties. its just that we never left the house, which sucked for me. had i been able to get her on a dance floor i'd prob b writing a great f-close story.

I went back but it wasn't for a beating of any kind as I was only there to have a good time, which is what i do best. I noticed today that when Im focused on having fun instead of competing, I shine. I find my laugh can be contagious and people have fun when i'm around. Not being ****y but its actually what the girls told me when we were sitting around the fire after beer pong. They were like, 'o we were talking about you..' and that followed. Then my friends girlfriend mentions a friend of hers that has a crush, along with her sister, which then lead to her admitting an old crush.. which was actually a lil bit awkard and I quickly changed subject, but it was a nice boost in front of her college friend who was bein much more attentive this time around.

After the fire went out tho, the girlfriend wanted to watch a movie which didnt help my cause at all and I ejected 20 mins into it. Def wouldnt mind running into this chick again tho, she was bad looked exactly like the chick from sons of anarchy.

And yea i have chilled with some real life vultures that were true pimps(like the chick u brought home from the club wasnt safe if u went to the bathroom type shyt) so i know how it is, it was just unexpected but now i how it is with him. Plus this wasnt something planned it was just a regular life situation, not like a 'gaming activity.' But these situations come up a lot when my main friends almost all have g/f's (so gay).

 

[kingsam]

my friends and i never went by this. when i was back home in little rock i basically had 2 best friends. we all were good looking guys and women just have preferences. regardless of how hot i thought one was.. if one was feeling brad ("one of my freinds) then i'd back off and play my role. we made a great trio becuase there was no real jealousy when it came to women.

there are going to be a time when your friend is feeling someone and she's feeling you. it's dating karma.

i remember i went on a date, actualkly fvcked this girl who met my best friend and just feel for him. could honestly care less. it's just pvssy man it's not that serious.

hell we went on a double date afterwards lol.

back breaker you were kinda lucky to have decent buddies

many of us on here have guy friends who dont get it, ofr exapmple i have a buddy who will stick around try and compete wiht me when to girl is clearly interested in me ...? wired !
(he does it coz he is pretty clueless)

many guys will (sub conciously or conciously) screw over a good friend... for a girl

 

[zekko]

I have a friend who is married, he always has to be the center of attention. I can't compete with him, he's too high energy. I find that as long as I stay confident and comfortable in my niche things turn out okay. I just have to avoid that "I'm getting blown out" feeling, that's a negative thought.

Maybe the OP could get this girl's number, so he can try to isolate her, away from the AMOG.

 

[Kailex]

I went back but it wasn't for a beating of any kind as I was only there to have a good time, which is what i do best. I noticed today that when Im focused on having fun instead of competing, I shine. I find my laugh can be contagious and people have fun when i'm around. Not being ****y but its actually what the girls told me when we were sitting around the fire after beer pong. They were like, 'o we were talking about you..' and that followed.

See?

I told you to go there, have fun, and not worry about any women or any situations with women... and see what happened?
That other night, you were so busy competing with your friend that you didn't have fun and it probably was picked up by that girl.

Whenever situations like this happen... NEVER get flustered. Be GLAD, because you're getting a read on the situation and seeing who your friends are.

Besides, you lost out on one girl?

BIG DEAL.

There will be many more to game on, like you just noticed. You found out all sorts of valuable information just by going back... and had alcohol. You can never go wrong with that.

 

[backbreaker]

back breaker you were kinda lucky to have decent buddies

many of us on here have guy friends who dont get it, ofr exapmple i have a buddy who will stick around try and compete wiht me when to girl is clearly interested in me ...? wired !
(he does it coz he is pretty clueless)

many guys will (sub conciously or conciously) screw over a good friend... for a girl

i MEAN ovbiusly there are some women that are off limits. brad dated a girl off and on for 10 years almost. off limits. that's like my little sister, or was. my other friend had it bad locking on to women.. he was what i call an aFC thug.. hew as the msot AFC out of the three of us as we got older . good looking but when he locked on someone..okay. i was engaged for a while when i was young, ovbiously she as off limits

 

[DonGorgon]

Thats life

 

[synergy1]

I have a friend who is married, he always has to be the center of attention. I can't compete with him, he's too high energy. I find that as long as I stay confident and comfortable in my niche things turn out okay. I just have to avoid that "I'm getting blown out" feeling, that's a negative thought.

Maybe the OP could get this girl's number, so he can try to isolate her, away from the AMOG.

Thats why you never fight head to head against a superior opponent. (that going under the grandiose assumption that its a competition). I hear ya man, sometimes I am simply not high energy enough to compete with some people. Other times, I am more than the people around me but either way trying to compete with said person when one simply doesn't have the tools is folly.

What would I do? let the friend game the chick. Shes into him, they are occupying each other. I would start chatting with the g/f if she was hot/interesting. Make him divest his efforts while you concentrate yours. If that doesn't work, I'd probably find another battle to fight and not waste my time ( trade space for time). That would involve calling other friends and seeing where other events are taking place.

People who have read robert greenes books can probably see the themes here. What can I say? I am a fan!