"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Uncharted's History Of Indifference

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I recently posted my "Crime Scene Sex" story:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=202717

I realized last night that I have a ton of stories in my life where I've hooked up with chicks because of one reason: Indifference. I figured I would keep a thread of these stories for entertainment purposes and also for helping you guys out.

Hopefully some of these stories will help you guys realize that the less you care, the more you attract. That is one of the most important lessons you can learn on this site.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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About 8-9 years ago, I was both an AFC and a DJ at the same time - I just didn't know it! Here's another story that shows that indifference works:

I was on AIM (yes remember that sh!t) and I saw in someone's profile that they quoted some girl's name. I thought it was a girl it was just a girly name.

So I IM this person, introduce myself. It turns out that she lives one town over. We chat for about 10 minutes.

A few days later she IMs me - I forgot who she was so I asked - and she was like "oh you dont remember me? it's xxxx (whatever) and she's like I'll send a photo so you remember me." She's a HB6.5 maybe. Doable without any effort. So here's where I say to myself - ok I'm putting zero effort into this.

Every once in a while over the next few weeks, like say every 3-4 days or whatever I just shoot over an IM and say "oh man i had the best time this weekend"(because i did) and tell her what happened. After about a month, she mentions that she dated a common friend. After some convo she mentions something about sleeping with him but he dumped her or some crap. Then she mentions that she loves giving BJs.

So I immediately say "maybe he dumped you because your BJs aren't any good". She goes on the defensive for a few minutes and I ignore all her complaints. Then IM "so show me." After a minute or two she says "OK".

I meet up with her in a parking lot. I jump in her car, I start kissing her within a minute or two. Then I say "ok you need to suck my d!ck now". She unbuttons my pants and goes for it.

Afterwards, I don't contact her. She IMs me randomly for about a month things like "hey when are we hooking up again?". It almost seems pathetic to me.

It took years to realize that this is another example of how indifference works.

More to come.
 

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Another time I went up to visit my friends at their college, they were all living in a dorm suite (meaning 6 guys). On the same floor were three other suites (two with 6 girls and one more with 6 guys).

As a floor, we basically all pre-gamed before going out. I met one of the girls there who happened to be from a town close to my hometown. I talked to her for about ten minutes, but then one of the other girls walked in who was really hot. So I introduced myself to her and tried to talk to her for the next 45 minutes (this was when I was AFC so I didn't realize what I was doing).

We all go out to a bar, music is playing. I'm trying to dance with the hottie. She is having none of it. So I'm just dancing on the floor, and the other girl (who is cute but not hot) starts dancing up on me. At this point I'm feeling a little drunk so I start grinding on her. Look at her eyes and start kissing, making out. Then I realize (AFC mode) that maybe the OTHER hot girl is watching, so I pull back from the cute one and just go hang out with my friends.

I start ignoring the cute one, she locks eye contact a few times but then I look away. I'm sure that I've completely confused her.

Later in the night we all head back. The hottie goes to her bed and the cutie and I are sitting on a couch. I'm figuring that I should just go for it. I go in for the kiss, she starts grabbing the D, and we go into her bedroom. F-close.

Basically, I treated her like a total jerk the entire night and it worked, amazingly. After that night I called her and we went out on a dinner date. It was terrible.

Just another example of the indifference effect.
 
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DUDE that 2nd approach is hardcore as ****. Ignore her all night, sit down next to her, then go directly for the hookup. CAVEMAN STYLE hahahaha no words necessary. nice one man. edit: actually I misread it but still nice work lol
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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About six years ago I tried the online dating thing. Most of the things I sent out did not get a response. One of the girls finally responded something like:

"You sound amazing but you don't have a photo" (I forgot).

I sent her one, and she immediately e-mailed me back her number. I called her up, we set a dinner date for Friday.

I go to her door to pick her up, I see someone looking out the peephole thing, then she opens the door and says "Oh you are so hot!" and immediately kisses me on the lips. I just say "Thanks!". Now I really don't think I'm that good looking, maybe a 7-8, but whatever.

We had dinner that night, she was kino-ing back, we kissed a few times after dinner and on the way to get dessert (at a different place in the city). She complimented my car (I had borrowed my uncle's Mercedes just for the date). We go back to her place and she blows me.

I call her a few days later and ask what she's doing for the weekend. I tell her I'm going to a party Friday night (true) but my plans for Saturday were up in the air (true - out with the guys to bars but nobody wanted to go), so we plan to go to her place and watch a movie (fvck). So she kind of invites herself along on Friday. I say sure because I'm an AFC. A few days later I regretted it, so I call her and say "hey that party has been cancelled but I'm going out with my friends Friday, let's do Saturday at your place." There were two other chicks going and I didn't want to have to bother with this chick the whole night.

Apparently she knows the same people I do and ran into someone who was at the party with me on Friday (a guy). When I show up Saturday, she's acting a little distant, and then brings it up. I'm paraphrasing but:

HB: So why did you tell me the party was cancelled?
Me: What party?
HB: The party last night? Did you not want me there?

I had some other personal things going on in my life so I really didn't want to put up with a b!tchy woman so...

Me: Yeah I changed my mind, I only bring women to meet my friends if they deserve it.

I was ready to just leave and say forget this chick.

She hesitates for about 10 seconds... then grabs me and says "I want you to fvck me right now"

One of the best fvcks I've had, and she was pretty hot maybe a 9. We got into an argument a week later and I just broke it off with her, but it still makes for a crazy story.
 
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