"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Uncharted Territory: Lesbian and/or Butch wings

Swampcamel

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OK. My roommates are a pair of lesbians--one, the adorable, shy, sexy feminine lesbian that gets hit on by straight dudes all the time, and the other, probably the most handsome butch I've ever met, though it makes her look like a 14 year old boy.

So yea, since we live together right now, I get invited to some of their parties. These two are sort of celebrities in their social circles as everyone wants the gay people in close regards or some ****, and girls want to experiment with them. Some dudes have even asked the butch to **** 'em, but she's turned 'em down.

Anyway, it's been a give-take situation on getting new plates. I instantly get more respect and attention because I'm a dude who's close with a pair of lesbians. However, for at least half or more of the girls, they're more interested in the butch and picking up on her.

Hilarious implications. The butch, forever tortured in gender identity, actively practices her masculinity and so appears sexually comfortable and dominant when in a room of AFC's. The butch also offers noncommittal sex, something a dude would love to offer, but social norms make a girl feel GUILTY for that, that's slutty, not hot, because lesbian sex is just hot not slutty.

Anyway, sometimes the butch gets too drunk and ****blocks me in an attention ***** way, sometimes she doesn't. I've talked to her about this, and we're trying to figure out some methods that we can use our dynamic to my greater advantage instead of obstacle.

I think, generally, this might be a harder game to play than regular winging because subconscious forbidden sex drives in women are going to keep them more curious about a butch than any regular game they can play with a guy. But maybe there's a way...

Not relying on this wing in any way, just opening a brainstorm for the situations where we go to the same bars/parties together.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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LiveFreeX

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GTFO that situation man... nothing good will come of hanging around lesbians. Don't buy into their warped bvll****, get yourself into a good relationship with a family girl. Why you guys want to hang out with damaged pieces of sh1t is beyond me...

The only girls that want to 'experiment' are girls that are seriously fvcked in the head... if you think you are going to latch onto these people and get their scraps, you're sorely mistaken. Lesbians HATE straight men, don't go fooling yourself, thinking that its natural or they were born like that, give me a fvckin break. Lesbians are MADE not born and they don't like you unless you are bowing before them.

I'm beyond disgusted you would live with these women and tolerate their bvll****.
 

Bible_Belt

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My high school girlfriend was in a lesbian relationship for a few years after college. A male roommate tried to rape her, and I think that was the trigger. Her girlfriend was butch. She teaches high school algebra. I would come back from college on holidays and hang out with the two of them. Gay people really like to get fvcked up - there's a reason they always have to have their own bar. We drank a lot. Straight women who hang around gays are called "fag hags." The are easy, but tend to be not that hot, as the name implies. At least you can tell they are actually women, though. Anything at a gay bar that looks like a super model is probably a guy; or at least something that used to be a guy :eek:

The ex of mine has been married to a guy for about ten years now; they have a young daughter. She's also a college professor. I can't see anything fvcked up about her that relates to her time as a lesbian.
 

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many men are VERY fvcked up in the head, as you can see from the above posts.
 
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