"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Seeing old couples happy together and having grand parents...

What keeps these people together?

Could it happen to an old DJ?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Find someone you want to spend quality time with after the honeymoon period, initial attraction, and looks fade. These couples commonly use the term "best friends". Have to like her personality for the long haul…
 
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Find someone you want to spend quality time with after the honeymoon period, initial attraction, and looks fade. These couples commonly use the term "best friends". Have to like her personality for the long haul…
Yeah, the initial attraction stage is great and all (see: mystery and drama) but to be comfortable and just chill with someone seems more my speed... some would call this the "mature love phase"...would be great to get past the power struggle phase, quickly. I'm tired.
 

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Yeah, the initial attraction stage is great and all (see: mystery and drama) but to be comfortable and just chill with someone seems more my speed... some would call this the "mature love phase"...would be great to get past the power struggle phase, quickly. I'm tired.
That phase never ends.

If you sit on your ass and get lazy your woman will get bitchy

A good woman pushes you to be your best, always.
 

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A good woman pushes you to be your best, always.
Yeah, my chick went sh!t nuclear without a clue that I do that already. I was in the army, after all... be all you can be! It's in my blood.

I don't need her for that, just help and companionship.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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They both have no options so they have to settle.
 

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I work with old folks..... Happy old couples are FAR AND FEW BETWEEN.

Most hate each other... tons of resentment... anger. But they have no choice.

One thing you all have to realize is that the person you marry can and probably will change.... most of the time not for the better.
 

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I work with old folks..... Happy old couples are FAR AND FEW BETWEEN.

Most hate each other... tons of resentment... anger. But they have no choice.

One thing you all have to realize is that the person you marry can and probably will change.... most of the time not for the better.
Be extra careful?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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ALL women are crazy... You pick the amount of crazy you are willing to live with....

The perfect mate does not exist.... "Unicorns"are a myth.
How about slightly crazy in the fun kinda way? ;):cool:
 

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Trouble is that most of us are here because we haven't found a unicorn and aren't willing to settle for the crap that most married guys put up with. So you might be asking the wrong crowd. My two cents worth you need shared long term goals. Otherwise once the initial excitement has worn off it all just becomes domestic grind.
 

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I work with old folks..... Happy old couples are FAR AND FEW BETWEEN.
Yup, I can verify that one.

However, there are some couples out there who are genuinely happy together. Usually it's because the man is very much a confident leader in the household. I've met a lot of women who won't shut up about how much they miss their late husband. But there's also a lot who will just mention him in passing without mentioning a single fond memory.

I think there's a definite line drawn between the two, and I suspect it all goes back to High Score Theory. The ones who are happy with each other or the widow misses her husband were usually married for an extremely long time; like 50-60 years. That means she married while she was 18-20, or possibly even earlier.

I really do believe it makes a difference landing your women young. The women who don't really care that their husband is gone either married a beta, or met him in their late 20s or early 30s after multiple encounters. I have an aunt who was thrilled her husband died, and exclaimed that being married is like "being in fvcking jail"
 

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Habit is what keeps them together....

I only know ONE older married couple that appear to be completely happy... and it's a couple that actually married when they were in their 60s who had been friends as children and both their fist marriages ended in death. What keeps them happy is they both have a LONG history and a LOT in common.

Also, if they are older... then they likely married at a time when a woman's natural hypergamy was kept in check by shaming and society.
 

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Habit is what keeps them together....

I only know ONE older married couple that appear to be completely happy... and it's a couple that actually married when they were in their 60s who had been friends as children and both their fist marriages ended in death. What keeps them happy is they both have a LONG history and a LOT in common.

Also, if they are older... then they likely married at a time when a woman's natural hypergamy was kept in check by shaming and society.
Who in life is completely happy? Aren't we setting the bar too high for marriage?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Who in life is completely happy? Aren't we setting the bar too high for marriage?
The question was what keeps them together.... I answered... it's habit. Happiness is not relevant. I mention it only to state the obvious... happiness is not a factor. I know only ONE older couple that is happy... and there are plenty out that are still together even though they hate each other.

Marriage is stupid... any man that agrees to that nonsense in this day and age needs their heads examined.
 

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The question was what keeps them together.... I answered... it's habit. Happiness is not relevant. I mention it only to state the obvious... happiness is not a factor. I know only ONE older couple that is happy... and there are plenty out that are still together even though they hate each other.

Marriage is stupid... any man that agrees to that nonsense in this day and age needs their heads examined.
Yes, it's all about habit. Habit is huge in the way you live life. I guess that may be also what will keep a lot of us single for life.. ha ha
 

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Yup, I can verify that one.
I have an aunt who was thrilled her husband died, and exclaimed that being married is like "being in fvcking jail"
Did you ever ask her why she stayed married? It might be like a jail, but she did hold the key to let herself out and escape. Why not exercise that option instead of living in an arrangement she was not happy with?

I've always believed it takes a much stronger person to go alone, than stay with someone.
 

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So you might be asking the wrong crowd.
I already know the answer. I just wanted to see what kind of comments would come up. I'm looking for different perspectives. And, maybe I might learn something I don't already know.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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