"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Ultimate AFC (unbelievable!!!)

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Was just looking through this book about dating and advice for men and the author mentions not trying too hard, etc, etc. but then goes into an example ofa man that may have tried just a bit too hard (understatement of the year).

The man's name is Keith Ruff. I don't know if anyone here knows the story or not. But Keith is a 35 yr old, former stockbroker, who met a girl in D.C. named, Karine, who is 20 yrs. old. He says he's never felt this way about a girl in his life and promises to continue to pursue her forever!! As if that wasn't enough, Keith has since quit his job and has been living in a hotel in D.C. near where she works continuing to profess his love for her. He claims he will continue to ask her to marry him even ifshe turns him down 50,000 times or becomes a nun!!!

Continuing on, here are some of the monetary things he has bought Karine:
- Between 3,000 and 5,000 flowers (not including the flowers he has bought for her mother who works at the French embassy)
-A Limo parked outside her door with full bar and TV
-A gold ring
-$200 worth of champaigne
-Catered lobster dinners to her home.
-Musicians to come and serenade her.
-Sandwhich sign wearers walking around her home and business with the message "MR. DENNIS KEITH RUFF LOVES KARINE"
- Balloons (which she immediately popped, claiming the house was too full of flowers that there would be no room to walk around).
- A stepladder for her parents with the message "May you look at our relationship from a different angle"
- A learjet, placed on standby at the airport, "just in case she wanted to ride around".

When asked about the money he's spent (its estimated around $20,000) he claims to not care. Job offers he says, "not interested". "I'd rather think about her then sit at a job."

So what will happen if he runs out of money??? He said he will spend his last dime and beg for money if he has to in his pursuit of Karine, keep trying for 10 or 20 yrs. if thats what it takes.

Moral of the story here gentlemen, don't get carried away. And if you do feel like an AFC at some point, come back and read this and realize it could be worse. Or that if you don't come to your senses, look what might happen.

Here is a link to this story that I found on the internet:

http://www.christchurchbaptist.org/Pastors Word/loves_acid_test.htm
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Oh...My...God. I almost want buy this guy some David DeAngelo CDs and mail it to him just as an act of charity.
 

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Seriously. this guy makes AFC's look like Cary Grant! :trouble:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If that wasn't bad enough guys (I posted before reading the whole story I was so in shock) here are some quotes to end the article:

"Maybe this makes her nervous, but at least she gets to smile while being nervous"

"Reality to me is disturbing, I'd rather just close my eyes and see her face."

"Fantasy is where I'm living. I'm living with hope".

SCARY!!!!
 

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This is a mental disorder, not AFC. He needs professional help and the news media are basically just exploiting his illness.
 

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Yes, we like to call this 'illness' AFC.
 

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wb-AFC-itis





what happens if she falls for him? That will rock the world of players, DJs, and pimps to its very core.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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If a lawyer gets in touch with her, he will get a restraining order put on the guy. Then when he violates it, he goes to jail. Spending all his money is not the worst that can happen. There are plenty of guys in jail for being AFCs.
 

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DJDamage said:
There is a thin line between an AFC and a psycho and this guy just crossed it.
That one.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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hey Bible Belt, what do you mean guys that are in jail for being AFC?? This is interesting, give an example
 

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D_Master said:
Was just looking through this book about dating and advice for men and the author mentions not trying too hard, etc, etc. but then goes into an example ofa man that may have tried just a bit too hard (understatement of the year).

The man's name is Keith Ruff. I don't know if anyone here knows the story or not. But Keith is a 35 yr old, former stockbroker, who met a girl in D.C. named, Karine, who is 20 yrs. old. He says he's never felt this way about a girl in his life and promises to continue to pursue her forever!! As if that wasn't enough, Keith has since quit his job and has been living in a hotel in D.C. near where she works continuing to profess his love for her. He claims he will continue to ask her to marry him even ifshe turns him down 50,000 times or becomes a nun!!!

Continuing on, here are some of the monetary things he has bought Karine:
- Between 3,000 and 5,000 flowers (not including the flowers he has bought for her mother who works at the French embassy)
-A Limo parked outside her door with full bar and TV
-A gold ring
-$200 worth of champaigne
-Catered lobster dinners to her home.
-Musicians to come and serenade her.
-Sandwhich sign wearers walking around her home and business with the message "MR. DENNIS KEITH RUFF LOVES KARINE"
- Balloons (which she immediately popped, claiming the house was too full of flowers that there would be no room to walk around).
- A stepladder for her parents with the message "May you look at our relationship from a different angle"
- A learjet, placed on standby at the airport, "just in case she wanted to ride around".

When asked about the money he's spent (its estimated around $20,000) he claims to not care. Job offers he says, "not interested". "I'd rather think about her then sit at a job."

So what will happen if he runs out of money??? He said he will spend his last dime and beg for money if he has to in his pursuit of Karine, keep trying for 10 or 20 yrs. if thats what it takes.

Moral of the story here gentlemen, don't get carried away. And if you do feel like an AFC at some point, come back and read this and realize it could be worse. Or that if you don't come to your senses, look what might happen.

Here is a link to this story that I found on the internet:

http://www.christchurchbaptist.org/Pastors Word/loves_acid_test.htm
aWWw....i think you guys need to lighten up....hes so sweet! :rock: *BARF
 

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:nervous: Dude, I feel like liek I just got hit in the gut.
I feel like vomiting.

Bro..dude........
You're dangerous.

Man, I feel sick.



Guys, don't ever, EVER do this crazy sh*t.
Just don't.
Never. NEVER.


Better to be alone than to have a woman with you just becasue of your money.
Better to be alone than to beg a woman to be with you.
Better to be alone than to resort to having to buy her things to like you.
Better to be alone than to sacrifice your self respect and dignity to be with a woman.
Better to live with rejection, than to live with regret.

And much, much better to do your homework now on your Self Improvement, than later when you're tongue tied, and brain farting in front of the woman of your dreams.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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