UK police go undercover to catch men catcalling women out running

[BadBoy89]

In the United Kingdom, men will be arrested if they catcall a woman while she is out running.

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UK police have gone undercover to catch men harassing women out running, lacing up their own running shoes and warning men to “think twice”.

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Surrey Police are sending out female officers in running gear, supported by crews nearby that will swoop if the women are catcalled or subjected to sexually suggestive comments. One of the volunteers, Private Constable Abi Hayward, said she was proud to volunteer for the scheme, which follows a similar programme that sent plain-clothes police officers into pubs and clubs as part of the Violence Against Women and Girls Safer Spaces programme. "I feel diminished... it makes me feel uneasy." PC Abi Hayward said of receiving harassment while she’s just trying to her cardio in.

“We get catcalled. We get honked at. People slow down just to stare - or lean out the window to shout something. It’s so common, but it’s harassment and it needs to be recognised as that,” she told radio station LBC, who accompanied Hayward and another officer as they put the programme through its paces. PC Abi Hayward says she's proud to volunteer for the program Surrey Police

On that day, the two undercover officers were targeted within minutes by a man in a who honked and made gestures out of his window. Two men in a van were also caught by officers - and apologised. “They said sorry to us and it meant a lot as it shows this operation is working - we’re out here making change happen,” Hayward said.

“This behaviour is either a precursor to something more serious - or it’s ignorance, and it’s fixable. That’s where our interventions come in: to stop potential repeat offenders or help people understand that what they’re doing isn’t OK.

“The rise in violence against women and girls is real - we’re talking about women being spat at, stalked, harassed while they’re just out on a run - it’s just horrendous.” Inspector Jon Vale, Reigate and Banstead Borough Commander, said the behaviour was unacceptable and warned men to stop.
“The message I would like to impart to perpetrators is this; your actions will not be tolerated. Please reflect and ask yourself ‘is this how you would treat or want your partner, mother, sister to be treated’? He told LBC that men should be on notice that police will be watching.

“You don’t know if the woman you’re harassing is a police officer - and that’s the point and we want people to think twice before acting like this.”

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Thoughts?

 

[Westminster]

My thoughts are that we have a lot bigger problems than this. You shouldn't be catcalling but really there are lots of other things I'd like the police (who are always claiming to be under-resourced) to prioritise instead.

 

[SW15]

In the United Kingdom, men will be arrested if they catcall a woman while she is out running.

UK police have gone undercover to catch men harassing women out running, lacing up their own running shoes and warning men to “think twice”.

“You don’t know if the woman you’re harassing is a police officer - and that’s the point and we want people to think twice before acting like this.”

Thoughts?

This sounds like a gigantic waste of police resources. There are real violent and property crimes going on in the United Kingdom.

I'm not a United Kingdom resident. I'm in the United States and in one of the biggest US metropolitan areas.

In US big cities, the majority of younger women are anti-social and take measures to avoid human interactions. If women walk outdoor paths or are in any outdoor spaces, they are using earbuds/headphones in conjunction with smartphones/tablets to avoid human interactions. The interactions that they are most commonly trying to avoid are approaches from men.

If women are getting catcalled on streets, paths, and in parks, their headphones/earbuds should prevent them from hearing the catcalls.

Younger women have extended their avoidance of human interaction indoors as well. Almost all younger women are wearing headphones/earbuds at the gym. They are trying to avoid males trying to start interactions with them.

This is why swipe apps and social media DMs have become a major part of starting interactions.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Wow dude….way to make society more g@y and adrogynous than it already is

 

[BaronOfHair]

Thoughts?

Now that grooming gangs have gone the way of Dock Martens and Flannel(terribly out of fashion), The 5-0 in that neck of the woods are desperate for a new hobby

 

[The Duke]

I don't agree with catcalling behavior, but women need to do their part and accept some responsibility(rare for most). Stop dressing in sexually provacative work out apparel if you don't want to draw attention. Years ago the nuns that led the Catholic schools sent young girls home and slapped them with a yard stick if their skirts werent past their knees.

There are two parts to this problem, not just the men. Why aren't they harassing women for dressing sexually in public?

Surely they have more serious issues than this to address. Sounds like a waste of tax payer dollars.

 

[Mike32ct]

I didn’t think catcalling was still a thing until a female coworker told me about her experience. Obviously it’s not acceptable.

On the other hand, this might not be the best use of female officers’ time.

 

[SW15]

women need to do their part and accept some responsibility(rare for most)

Women are not good at accountability and accepting responsibility for their actions.

Stop dressing in sexually provacative work out apparel if you don't want to draw attention.

Many women who are catcalled/approached are wearing an outfit meant to draw attention. There are women wearing more ordinary outfits who get catcalled. I also think catcalling is becoming less common as all types of in-person approaching are declining.

I am surprised at the swimsuits that women tend to wear lately. A good portion of women seem to have no issue with wearing very revealing swimsuits. Women seem comfortable wearing string bikinis that show off their entire buttcheeks at swimming pools. This isn't just done at commercialized pool parties either. Commercialized pool parties are essentially a nightclub environment during daylight hours beside a pool. I've seen too many women showing off their butts at basic apartment complex pools with no socialization. I can understand women showing off their butts at a commercialized pool parties (nightclub type environment) in order to attract men. Doing it at a basic apartment pool with few attendees seems odd to me.

Getting Laid as a Result of Going to Pool Parties

After using the Search function here, I realize that there hasn't been a lot of discussion about getting laid as a result of going to pool parties. The lay doesn't have to happen on the same day as the pool party, but at some time after meeting a woman at a pool party. Let me be more specific...

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Years ago the nuns that led the Catholic schools sent young girls home and slapped them with a yard stick if their skirts werent past their knees.

This was a long time ago. I think the last full generation to experience this was Baby Boomers, though some older Generation X'ers might have gotten the last bits of this in the 1970s.

Later Generation X'ers and earlier Millennials likely got in trouble for short shirts in Catholic schools in the 1980s-2000s, but they didn't get the yard stick slap discipline. Also, there were fewer sisters/nuns in K-12 Catholic schools by then.

Public schools, secular private schools, and even Protestant private schools did use some physical discipline decades ago (up until the 1970s), but they never developed the reputation for it like Catholic private schools did.

Everything I said is specific to the US and might not have been applicable in the UK.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I don't agree with catcalling behavior, but women need to do their part and accept some responsibility(rare for most)

This goes to a larger problem in our society, the likes of which both genders are now complicit in:

We can all stop pretending to be mortally wounded by words shouted at us by randos on the street, or by celebrities on TV who aren't even targeting us personally

As recently as The 2000s and very early 10s, the manner in which one handles such matters was self-explanatory to every reasonably intelligent person, ages 10 and above:

"Ignore the f-c-wad who uttered words you personally find distasteful, and get on with life. If you find yourself deeply perturbed by such events, long after they've occurred... Well, that's something to work through with a highly skillful psychotherapist, who doesn't hesitate to be brutally honest with his(or her)clients"

 

[BaronOfHair]

Later Generation X'ers and earlier Millennials likely got in trouble for short shirts in Catholic schools in the 1980s-2000s, but they didn't get the yard stick slap discipline. Also, there were fewer sisters/nuns in K-12 Catholic schools by then.

Public schools, secular private schools, and even Protestant private schools did use some physical discipline decades ago (up until the 1970s), but they never developed the reputation for it like Catholic private schools did.

I went to mostly public schools in The 90s and parts of The 2000s... Little girls who came to school in shorts went up their buttcracks were regularly pulled out of class, and instructed to either put on pants or tie a shirt around their rears. No, these weren't schools in rural America either. This was the way life worked in urban, university-town "liberal, bordering on Progressive" America as well. There was an unwritten understanding that went something like:


"Most you WILL NOT become the next Taylor Swift, or cast members on a hit CW series... You'll be joining The Corporate-sphere in but a few years time, ergo it's incumbent on you to start preparing for that eventuality NOW, by dressing, speaking, and acting like your fit for 5th Avenue"

This fad of looking like a street corner skank, even among women who are from and reside in suburbia-all socioeconomic stratas above, mirrors a very similar phenomenona that's been pervasive among men for the past decade or so https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...-nothing-personal.283972/page-16#post-3159485

EVERYONE's hell bent on prolonging their adolescence, even when junior high is decades in the past. This is evident in every aspect of life, from the entertainment that's been most lucrative, to what we wear, to the manner in which we behave

 

[Bible_Belt]

What's next, arresting people for offensive Twitter posts? Oh, wait, they're already doing that.

 

[Bokanovsky]

These are the same cops that look the other way while Pakistani gangs groom and rape underage girls. UK is arguably the most retarded country in the world right now.

 

[BaronOfHair]

These are the same cops that look the other way while Pakistani gangs groom and rape underage girls

UK police go undercover to catch men catcalling women out running

In the United Kingdom, men will be arrested if they catcall a woman while she is out running. ---------------------------------------------- UK police have gone undercover to catch men harassing women out running, lacing up their own running shoes and warning men to “think twice”...

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Explanation is quite simple

 

[characternote]

These are the same cops that look the other way while Pakistani gangs groom and rape underage girls. UK is arguably the most retarded country in the world right now.

As a Brit, I'd agree lol