"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ugh. Super Tinder FAIL.

Johnny Alias

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Oh man. Had a date with a broad tonight. Super hot Tinder pics and them DAMN. Hit every branch when she fell off the ugly tree. Woof.

That's it. No insightful observations. Just DAMN.

Son of a *****. Talked about super depressing **** just to get rid of her. Mother of Pearl. And too late to call a backup! ****!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Peaks&Valleys

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Just started with Tinder recently, haven't had a date yet, but that was always the nightmare with online dating. Had some of those, a few times I couldn't even believe it was the same person. Had to go back and study the pics. Chicks these days. I eventually started asking for another pic before we met. I'd get her number then ask her to send me one over. If they refused, which they rarely did, then I would refuse the date ;)

Last thing you want to do is get stuck with a chick, just going through the motions, knowing you're never going to see her again.

But hey, thanks for the warning/reminder!


How long you been on there? How's it been so far, other than the recent catastrophe?

I've been on for about a week and a half, been semi-active. I've notice there seems to be alot of quality, and a lot of younger chicks. I've gotten three numbers so far. One chick semi-flaked, another one we couldn't find a time we're both available but she wants to meet this weekend. The third one was going out of town and I haven't heard from her since she was supposed to be back. All three pretty much look like 7's. I've matched up with a few 8's, one of them thought she was queen of the castle, and we got into a debate about something (I ended up owning it :up:) never heard from her again haha, didn't matter, I had more fun putting her in her place ;) The other 8, I'll message tomorrow. I guess it's going pretty much as expected so far, could be better though.
 

Johnny Alias

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Been on a couple months. Had a few bangs. Both batshvt but who cares? I like your idea of another pic. These other pics were obviously YEARS old. DAYUM!

It's not bad as a passive option... and it doesn't cost like match. Mehr. Whatever. It doesn't really factor much into my regular game.
 

pdx1138

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well if anything its a learning experience.

I remember leaving a date like that and though I carried ALL
the conversation (a testament to what I learned here btw)

I couldn't wait for the lunch to be over, she knew it too after
I told her I had to "go help my brother."

I was so depressed later that day for the time wasted, but
again a good practice on my "talking to strangers" social skills at the time.
 

Yewki

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pdx1138 said:
well if anything its a learning experience.

I remember leaving a date like that and though I carried ALL
the conversation (a testament to what I learned here btw)

I couldn't wait for the lunch to be over, she knew it too after
I told her I had to "go help my brother."

I was so depressed later that day for the time wasted, but
again a good practice on my "talking to strangers" social skills at the time.
Yeah, sucks when you meet and for whatever reason you're not into each other (or maybe she's just not into you)... but the girl doesn't even try to have a good time. Doesn't ask any questions, initiates nothing. But doesn't outwardly want to leave either. And of course usually declines to pay for anything. Apparently her payment is allowing you to waste your time on someone who is f**king boring.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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