"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Upside

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Met this chick a week ago, kissed her on the spot, got her number, asked her out by phone yesterday for a Thursday date in the evening. I specifically told her when and where and that we should meet up. You know what she responds with? Maybe.

Fantastic

She gave me an excuse (Not legit I'm sure) and said she would let me know later if she can come out.

It's been about 24 hours since we last chatted and there has been no confirmation whatsoever. I'm not calling or texting her until she reaches me...considering if she really wanted to come out I would be informed by now. I'm not even surprised really. This is the third chick in a row that has given me an excuse. "I'm busy"..."Not now it isn't a very good time, I'll call you later this weekend."...and now "Maybe."

Whatever. I'm going through with my plans with or without her. I'm just feeling the F in AFC right now. Everytime I call a girl now I assume the worst. She won't pick up and then never attempt a call back. Or she will pick up but sound SOOO (sarcasm) happy to hear my voice; it's like talking to a wall.

I just can't win at this game, but of course I am going to hop back on that proverbial horse and keep on trucking. I just need someone to throw me a bone once in a while.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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AtillaTheHun

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Is it really that frustrating? People are naturally flaky and indecisive. Why get frustrated over something you can't control? Don't you have other friends/girls to hang out with?
 

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It actually is this frustrating. I call my bro? He always gets back to me. I call my friends? 99% of the time they get back to me. I call a chick I just met? I better be pretty damn lucky if she picks up the phone...even luckier if she gets back to me...and even moreso if she decides to come out. Those odds suck.

We were having a good time, within minutes I was feeling vibes from her. Odds are if someone calls me to hang out that I enjoyed being with I'll get back to them or counter offer with something if I can't at that moment. I do my best not to leave people hanging. This is what I come to expect with chicks now. I'm having trouble giving girls a second chance with stuff like this.
 

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This chick seems more interested in what you have to offer, not you.

Three times in a row? What the f**k are you doing?

Maybe you did something wrong a week ago? Maybe you had bad breath? Maybe you're not attractive enough to this girl? Maybe you don't have high status? Maybe you don't have millions? Maybe she got a boyfriend? Maybe she's an attention wh0re? The list goes on!

I'd advise you to PM Igetit! (yes that's a user on this site, gives great advice)
 

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Sometimes we go on hot streaks, but sometimes we go on slumps, just remember that every one of those that are within your "slump" are probably not worth your time anyway and doing YOU a favor by flaking out EARLY.

I'm pretty sure that by now you already know that if she doesn't call you back, just delete her number.

I've had those streaks myself where it looked like I couldn't miss and was on a roll, but also had those slumps where I just KNEW they probably wouldn't pick up the phone.

THEIR loss.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Upside said:
Met this chick a week ago, kissed her on the spot, got her number, asked her out by phone yesterday for a Thursday date in the evening. I specifically told her when and where and that we should meet up. You know what she responds with? Maybe.

Fantastic

She gave me an excuse (Not legit I'm sure) and said she would let me know later if she can come out.

It's been about 24 hours since we last chatted and there has been no confirmation whatsoever. I'm not calling or texting her until she reaches me...considering if she really wanted to come out I would be informed by now. I'm not even surprised really. This is the third chick in a row that has given me an excuse. "I'm busy"..."Not now it isn't a very good time, I'll call you later this weekend."...and now "Maybe."

Whatever. I'm going through with my plans with or without her. I'm just feeling the F in AFC right now. Everytime I call a girl now I assume the worst. She won't pick up and then never attempt a call back. Or she will pick up but sound SOOO (sarcasm) happy to hear my voice; it's like talking to a wall.

I just can't win at this game, but of course I am going to hop back on that proverbial horse and keep on trucking. I just need someone to throw me a bone once in a while.
It's part of the game, something you have to learn to deal with. Hence it's always best to get a bunch of numbers and have many options. Girls complain men cheat on them, but what they dont see is the fact that most men who become successful have to get past alot of this stuff.

For every girl I've dated or slept with, I could amplify that number by at least 3 x the amount who flaked or showed lack of interest after an initial date.

Don't try to rationize it, the only thing you can do is improve ones confidence, enjoy the ride and expect no outcomes. As a matter of fact this was one of the main reasons why I personnally like to strike when the iron is hot and invite them back to my pad when it's already on, rather then drag it out to dating.

I feel that's a big problem guys have, they look to 'date' rather then looking to bag the chick, it is a known fact that if she sleeps with you, the chance of her coming back is increased 10fold.

Hence the best way to get a chick to stick around is to get her in the bedroom, that is the ultimate man tip and works a treat and get's far more results then pis*ing around with date upon date upon date.
 

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Been there done that got the t-shirt and journal to prove it. You know to get back up, try something new and tell us how it went. Getting good takes time so setbacks are to be expected. You are only AFC if you let the outcomes of your interactions determine whether you give up or don't bother trying
 

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"maybe" = i dont wanna go out wiht you, but iam a typical woman incapable of just saying NO...
basically anything other than YES = no (if they cant that day and do like you they will counter offer)

delete her number!
if this happens again with other women just say "well let me know when your shedule is free" ... very low chance of being contacted by the girls but IF they do ever contact you to re-arange the date they must have some interest to see you again.
(if its one who calls you up as they have nothing else going on it will be to go outn the same nite/similar so you can decline these - but these are rare)
 

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jonwon said:
It's part of the game, something you have to learn to deal with. Hence it's always best to get a bunch of numbers and have many options. Girls complain men cheat on them, but what they dont see is the fact that most men who become successful have to get past alot of this stuff.

For every girl I've dated or slept with, I could amplify that number by at least 3 x the amount who flaked or showed lack of interest after an initial date.

Don't try to rationize it, the only thing you can do is improve ones confidence, enjoy the ride and expect no outcomes. As a matter of fact this was one of the main reasons why I personnally like to strike when the iron is hot and invite them back to my pad when it's already on, rather then drag it out to dating.

I feel that's a big problem guys have, they look to 'date' rather then looking to bag the chick, it is a known fact that if she sleeps with you, the chance of her coming back is increased 10fold.

Hence the best way to get a chick to stick around is to get her in the bedroom, that is the ultimate man tip and works a treat and get's far more results then pis*ing around with date upon date upon date.
Guys, internalise this - it's gold!

Even if you suggest going back to yours and she turns you down, you won't end up in the friend zone so easy. Just get her digits and say we'll plan it another time.
 
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