"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Two times a flake..call it quits?

drf408

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So maybe a month and a half ago I met this chick. She seemed real interested in me enough that all my friends conceded she was mine and didn't even bother trying to work her. She even wanted to come to my place with me since we walked right by it, her dumb GFs stopped that :).
Got her number, as soon I text her she responds back immediately remembered my name. Told me she we could hang out that weekend "or sooner" blah blah. Literally not even a full day later she starts playing some game, goes flaky on me. I call her, she responds with text, so I ask her via text then to go out, I see I had a missed call, it was her, she texts immediately after "Sorry didn't mean to call you!" Never responded to my question of going out. I get a text with her out of the blue "I'll have to see how I feel tomorrow:)" this was Thursday night, I never mentioned Friday night, I respond "huh?" she replies "don't know if I feel like going out drinking" so I respond "i never said thats what we would do, ok, let me know". Next day, nothing until maybe 4pm "Hi how are you, what are you doing?" I respond with "just got out of the gym..........." she replies "I'm going tot he gym now! Have a good evening!!". LOL no mention of the night. I gave up then.

A few weeks ago, the day before I was heading out of town I receive a text "Hi! It's ____ how are you!!" followed immediately by "I really hope you remember me!!:)" then she sends "we need to hang out!!". I respond and from there she sends me a picture herself again comes on extremely interested, disappointed I was going away a week and she'd have to wait. Get back and shes super flirty, its all good, the again a day later flake city.
I said something jokingly, didn't mean it the way she took it but shes kind a bit off the boar (thai girl) and she responds "Ive got nothing to hide, I'm totally honest! blah blah how about tomorrow night!? (Sat night). Sat rolls around and she didn't make it back in town in time, had to take a train (she sent me a pic from) seemed again very disinterested. I told her no worries I was going out for some drinks to which she responded "awww have one for me too!".
I have not heard from her since but should I even bother to try??
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Bump. Going to text today, thinking since I left it open I would give it one more shot.
 

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sounds like you're in for a headache. SHE IS FLAKIN YOU. id move on or start to act like a **** to have fun
 

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My friend was in a similar situation and he told the girl if she ditches another time, he would never talk to her again. Worked for him very well and he's now going out with the girl. Anyways, your at the point of calling it quits so you might as well give this a try...
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Sometimes it stings because you feel like you might be passing up a potential lay with someone you really like, but you need to DEMAND RESPECT for yourself by not playing these stupid games with these attention whs. Even if you don't hit it, she will still think of you as different than all those other idiots who were willing to follow her and her games. In fact, next time she contacts you, say "I'm a little busy, I'll call you back...".....Then don't call her back
 

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Unfortunately I think she is. Cute face, not one you'd want in your photos or anything but an absolutely ridiculous body and she seems to know it. She did respond right away saying "tomorrow night??!" so we'll see if she flakes again, if she does I will just drop it completely and ignore her the next time she tries to pick it back up as advised or go with the "never talking to you strategy" above. My friend just had a similar situation as well, and he literally went off on the girl and just told her that "he wasn't going to tolerate her childish antics". A week later she was out with him and hooked up.
 

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damn!

Why in the world would you put up with that at all?

I would have ditched interest in her after the initial stage of that games bs.
It gets really old fast.

I almost canceled a date with a new girl a few weeks ago because she kept changing her mind about where we were to meet merely an hour before hand.
pain in the arses..
 

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"So maybe a month and a half ago I met this chick."

thats all i needed to read.

she's not attracted to you. read my post on "one-itis" that should answer all your questions. its a little bit of a long read, but it wont take you as long read as it will to bang this broad. you failed, she's not attracted to you, game over, find a new chick and start over.
 

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Wow. STOP TEXTING SO MUCH.

This text game is bullsh!t, and I generally avoid it by simply calling, having a short convo, and then asking her out somewhere. Easy. Simple. This entire time you've been like one of her girlfriends.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I don't think it's "oneitis" as I have multiple things going on right now. Not sure what it is, she was just my type, well physically and the situation kind of hooked me. I haven't put any time in yet BUT it is frustration and maybe that's it, the challenge. I have situations like this that went nowhere and others that ended very well. The texting is bad, but I have called her before too. I am trying to rely less on texting but to be honest I really hate talking on the phone so I need to get over it. But yes I need to STOP it, texting has burnt me multiple times now.
If my agenda were different then perhaps I would be quicker to just forget the whole thing at a sign of disinterest. Most likely this chick is just rebounding with her dude, when I met her she was fresh off from an on and off relationship, I don't mind being there when she's off.
 

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doesn't matter why & you shouldn't be quick to give exceptions ever.

To her you seem like a desperate fool when you "play along."

If thats what you intended, keep it up.
 

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Ok, you're right. Eye opening night last night, it's still on with this chick tonight and I have had these situations turn into hook ups. But I see the logic better of not giving exceptions, keeps you in control and you wont create rejection for yourself. Last night was both great and terrible and I'll post a separate thing all about, 90% of all negative feelings i dealt with and rejection came from myself. I am much better ever since taking a break and getting away, just don't have my game back yet, which is what I'm working on now.
 

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Wouldn't oneitis mean you are absorbed with just one girl?Like I said, I'm not, I have been working multiple things and have a current "regular". The effort put in hasn't been much just the response was frustrating. She didn't flake last night, apparently her interest lvl was high she just afraid to get together (girl has some SERIOUS baggage). It was a decent night, she came back, it was that time of the month so she offered, eagerly the next best thing. Come to think about it if I followed these black and white laws to women, I probably wouldn't have had half much as I have had in my life.

The current regular, "friend with benefits" girl is another example. I had met her out and hit off with her and spent my whole night out with her, she triple checked that I had her number. I called her, twice, nothing. Six months pass by I get an invite on Facebook from her, minutes after accepting a chat window pops up. About a week later she came over, intentions obvious, and the rest is history. I looked at her page, she was in a relationship when I met her, apparently a volatile one. You just never know. If your angle is looking for the ideal girl to date and have someting with then I agree more with these "laws" but if trying to hook up I think some of them will cut your options.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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you are chasing.....there's your problem. if i meet any girl and havent banged her within 3 weeks, for any reason, i will not initiate contact until we actually meet in person. any attraction that you build when you first meet fades over time. after 3 weeks of no physical contact, the attraction is basically gone.
 
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