"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Two Months of Dating and No Sex

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I have been dating this girl for almost two months exactly now, and we have not had sex. It was not until about one week ago that she invited me over to her place. We watched a movie, cuddled on the couch, and made out for a little but that was it. She has pretty much shown no indication of wanting to have sex-nonverbally at least-since we have never actually discussed the issue. She is not a puritanical religious person, so I know this is not a factor.

What are some possible reasons for this? Is she just possibly not that into me, or is it something else?

thanks
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Ease

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Sounds like you need to take control and stop waiting for her to take your hand and guide you through it.

Make hoe say no.
 

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Either she isn't into you, or you haven't shown enogh interest. BUT holding hands and cuddling is High School behavior[age 13 or so]. Like was said-make your move.
 

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You're supposed to be in charge during the entire dating game. That means that YOU have to be the person that escalates/advances to the next level. So next time you're making out, start fondling her boobs, but do it slow, as you're already dating 2 months. You can't take it slowly and then all the sudden rush into her panties.
 

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ok so you are bein played.. my one night stands always tell me that they try to see how long they can make lame guys wait to ****.. its funny and sad... women will do what ever they want wen ever they want so best believe that while she os making you wait she is Fing other people..
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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DonGorgon

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SandHawk said:
You're supposed to be in charge during the entire dating game. That means that YOU have to be the person that escalates/advances to the next level. So next time you're making out, start fondling her boobs, but do it slow, as you're already dating 2 months. You can't take it slowly and then all the sudden rush into her panties.
women are always in charge cause pu$$y has a high demand the D!ck so either she will let you F or she wont ..

my rule is if she dont F on the first night 99% chace she will never F..
 

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DonGorgon said:
my rule is if she dont F on the first night 99% chace she will never F..
lol wat

you're a pretty good poster but that is one of the worst generalizations I've read on this forum
 

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Player Supreme has a great saying. Make a ho say no. Which means....go for it until she tells you to stop going for it. It's your job to be the man and to take action. It's her job to decide if she wants that action to take place or not...but if you don't do your part, she can't do hers. But remember, its call seduction for a reason...start slow,ramp up the action...pull back...start again...make it fun and tease her. Get out of your head and enjoy the moment.

*edit* There are women out there who don't F on the first date, or the second, or third. Now you can characterize them how ever you want to, **** tease, prude, B's who are taking you for a ride whilst screwing the badboy on the side.... and that may all be true.

But if you believe that there are women of substance, how would you expect a woman of substance to behave?

I'm not saying I buy into the quality woman myth or non-myth. I'm just saying...think about it.
 
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DonGorgon said:
women are always in charge cause pu$$y has a high demand the D!ck so either she will let you F or she wont
No no no pimpin you're wrong :nono:

Us men are in demand, we hold the seeds. If it wasnt for our seeds, they wouldnt be able to get pregnant.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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amoka

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No you're not Dating.

No. You're not "Dating" this woman, but rather "hanging out". I bet she is a woman in her late 20s or early 30s that is rather waiting or wanting to settle with a "nice" guy like yourself. So her friends advised to delay sex so you jump hoops for her. My advice to you is to not invest so much of your time on this woman. If it has not happened already, there will come a point where she would like to know "how do you see US?", "How do you see the 'relationship'"? When that time comes, simply respond: "I don't date woman that I am not having sex with" and let it be.
 

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As long as MEN think women are in charge becuase of puzzy,they will be. When we stand up and say no[as a group] MAYBE they will learn to behave properly.
 

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Thanks for all the advice on this. I am not exactly sure what is going on, but many of the ideas posted here seem very plausible. This "relationship', aside from being devoid of sex, also seems to be devoid of a lot of emotion...basically just "hanging out' as someone said, so I really can't figure out where it is now or where it is going in the future.
 
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