Two different friend zones

[DonJuanabe]

The first, populated by AFCs, where you wind up when you're a nice guy who never makes a move, supplicates, etc. One-way ticket with no return trip because the girl does not respect the guy. He is not leaving the friend zone.

The second, populated by guys who dated a girl but things didn't work out -- they made out with the girl a few times, perhaps had sex with her, but for whatever reason the relationship ended. As long as the two are on good terms with each other and the guy doesn't look weak there is the potential for a return ticket. To do so, as Pook once wrote about, you have to be patient and control your desire. If you and the girl hang out she has to FEEL good when she is with you. No talking or debating with her about the past or about where you stand now, just keep it light and have fun, lots of fun. Light and fun, light and fun. Afterwards she has to reflect back on the day and feel good about it -- feel good about you. Over time, if there is any chance of a return ticket, she'll pay your way if, when she thinks about you, she feels happy doing so.

 

[PapiChulo]

It does not really matter, because there is always another potential guy involved. It's all about the options she has and your sexual attractiveness.

 

[handle]

Second one isn't the friend zone. Remember: "friend zone" has nothing to do with actually being friends.

 

[J Roc]

The friend zone doesnt exist. you've been rejected!

 

[Mike32ct]

Women only have two types of male friends:

1. The kind she would never bang. This is the friendzone we most commonly think of. No way out of here.

2. The kind she might bang under the right conditions. He could be a guy she fooled around with before (as the OP mentioned) or he's a reasonably attractive guy in her social circle that she might wake up with if some alcohol was involved.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Women only have two types of male friends:

1. The kind she would never bang. This is the friendzone we most commonly think of. No way out of here.

2. The kind she might bang under the right conditions. He could be a guy she fooled around with before (as the OP mentioned) or he's a reasonably attractive guy in her social circle that she might wake up with if some alcohol was involved.

Thats true, I hope I to find myself in this position with a girl I like but who lives with her boyfriend.

One day when alchool (a lot ) was involved I did with her in public places, stuff that not even with my fvck buddies comes as easy.

Its all about the right conditions, place, moment and alchool.
Alchool is important not only because it makes you a less rational individual in that moment but mostly because it provides girl an excuse for that and a shield for the following day.

Half of all the bangs I get are from zone 2. The key is confidence and be a fun guy. These girls feed off of your confident and fun aura. You will also get free bangs from chicks who recenty broke up with their bfs becuse they need to feel desired by a man who other women desire. If youre ok with banging chicks like this and are just in it for sex, Youre golden using the 2nd zone.

Thats actually the explanation I gave myself for the previous case,despite she didnt leave her boyfriend.
Women want to try our guys who are desired from other women, especially because it satisfies their desire for sin/immorality and feed her ego in getting what other girls want.

I can notice the difference between the way girls treats me when they meet me for the first time and how they treat me after seeing me having success with girls.