"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Two Dates in One Night: Logistical challenge

Yo'Mama

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I already have a date set up for Friday but met this other girl who is only free then. I'd like to strike while the iron is hot. I'm always reading on here about limiting time (artificial time constraints). I've never really done it before. I'm meeting first girl at 730pm and second girl at 930pm. Should I tell first girl before the date that I have to be done by 915pm? Or should I wait til on the date itself. The first girl is hotter but second is also hot and I think much more up for it.

What should I use as the reason for having to leave early? Or should I just say, 'I've had fun but we should call it a night.' What if the date is going well. Won't doing something like that just kill it?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Willard

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I would tell her I have a something to do really early in the morning. Something cool even if you have to lie i.e. 5K, hiking, surfing. Tell her during the date, or end the date at 9:15, it depends on how the date is going. She will think you are cool, and show you put other things before her for now, and you will leave her wanting more.
 

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Tough scenario.

On one hand you limit your time with chick 1. What if things are going so well and she suggests coming back to her place? But at the same time you never want to "sell out" your night for one female.

As played....I wouldnt say anything until you had to go. If its going well, you may actually peak her interest by having to go.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Do This

There's a common school of thought says a first date should never last more than an hour. It increases you're desirability, adds to the air of mystery, shows you're not needy, and you have things in your life going on other than her. With all of that being said, end the first date at 8:30.
 

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Meet up with the first girl and around 830 casually mention that you need to get going by 9. You really can't go wrong here, just make some believable excuse to leave. You can even act like you're joking and say "I had fun talking to you but I need to get going, got another hot date tonight" and then give her a smirk. She will be dying to find out if it's true and you're being honest. This is a perfect way to increase attraction if you play it right. Most guys drag on dates and wait until she wants to go home.
 

Yo'Mama

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thanks guys. I always drag out dates and was stressed that if its going well with girl one and i end it early i may kill her interest. But no way will this particular girl come home with me on day one so i think in not losing anything by finishing up early. Title two is much more likely to come home. Great advice here. Will update you after Friday!
 
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