"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Turuwal's amazing magical guaranteed three-step method for sex

Turuwal

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There is a lot of angsting, philosophising and agonising on this board. So in the interests of saving time, I present for you the tried-and-true field-tested 100% guaranteed Turuwal three-step method for getting sex.

1. Go out into the field
2. Target the girl with the highest interest level at the current moment
3. Escalate until you get rejected

Repeat steps 1, 2 and 3 until you get sex.

Guaranteed!!!

Well, actually, not quite. If you are completely socially retarded or horribly disfigured there is a slight possibility that you may die of old age before you get sex. So in the interests of saving time, I present for you the not-tried-and-true not-field-tested but still 100% guaranteed Turuwal three-step method for not getting sex.

1. Don't go out into the field
2. Obsess over the girl that you don't have a chance with for months and months
3. Don't escalate because you might get rejected

Repeat steps 1, 2 and 3 until you die of old age.

Guaranteed!!!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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kraytkiller

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Haha, about as true as it gets. It's that easy.
 

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One sticking point with me is not going after girls that are interested. Seems obvious right? However, with all this talk of cold approaching and assuming interest and everything, i feel like some DJ's get the idea that they should start approaching the hottest girls regardless of the fact that they received no IOIs or anything from them to indicate interest.

Once i realized this and changed it up, it was like night and day. Approaching and pursuing girls that want nothing to do with you will leave you frustrated and desperate. I've found that (especially in a bar setting) its much more profitable to keep your cards close to the chest until you make eye contact or see a girl checking you out. These are much better leads than just "random" hot girls. My ego takes a huge hit after being rejected by like 4 or 5 hot girls in a night that simply werent interested. I realize this is a numbers game, but if you had ignored the 80% that werent giving you IOIs and gone after the 20% that had, i believe you'd be much better off. At least that's my personal experience.

When you go up to girls that havent conveyed interest...you fall into this trap of trying to "convert" them and almost trying to win them over....which never ends well. I;ve had great success just going out and being social and not trying to worry about getting laid. If you see a girl checking you out, then by all means open her. But dont spend your entire night stressing over making yourself constantly approach honeys who arent even interested..

Good post though. i agree
 

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So I started field testing it just after I posted on some girl who with her beta orbiter. She was giving me strong approach IOIs for some reason. Who cares why.

It appears that the beta orbiters will stop you escalating before the girl will.

I'm gonna expand the definition of "escalate" to include isolation and extraction in response to this.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Turuwal

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n00bPimp said:
Haha. I like you man.
Thanks man!

Ok, more field testing and a slight optimisation to deal with girls who are with their boyfriends.

2. Pay attention to the person with the highest interest level at the current moment

End result: chatted to a couple for 10 minutes and got an invitation to catch up with them in their home city when I visit next week. The girl said goodbye with a kiss on the cheek.
 

Turuwal

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gravityeyelids said:
i feel like some DJ's get the idea that they should start approaching the hottest girls regardless of the fact that they received no IOIs or anything from them to indicate interest.
Yep 100% true. Approaching impossible sets can be good for personal development but we must not forget the reason we are in the field in the first place. It is impossible to fvck the hottest girls right from the outset. Fvcking normal range cute girls is great for confidence and skill building and makes it more likely that you will eventually end up fvcking hot girls.
 

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Some more notes on this method.

When implemented in social groups, something about it turns all other guys into white knighting beta f*ggots. It's almost as if the fact that you are a complete player who doesn't give a fvck turns them into the complete opposite.

If you are, for reasons of scarsity, competing with multiple guys over the same girl, you can still use tinder to create jealousy.

As GotED? has correctly pointed out, in its pure form you will end up having sex with low quality girls using this method. Therefore if you are already having sex with someone, continue to flirt with everyone but raise the bar on the standard of girl you will actually have sex with. The more sex you are having, and the better the quality of your current team, the higher you can raise the bar.

But if you are a 40yo virgin you should probably just stick to the script and fvck whatever will fvck you.

;-)
 

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gravityeyelids said:
One sticking point with me is not going after girls that are interested. Seems obvious right? However, with all this talk of cold approaching and assuming interest and everything, i feel like some DJ's get the idea that they should start approaching the hottest girls regardless of the fact that they received no IOIs or anything from them to indicate interest.

Once i realized this and changed it up, it was like night and day. Approaching and pursuing girls that want nothing to do with you will leave you frustrated and desperate. I've found that (especially in a bar setting) its much more profitable to keep your cards close to the chest until you make eye contact or see a girl checking you out. These are much better leads than just "random" hot girls. My ego takes a huge hit after being rejected by like 4 or 5 hot girls in a night that simply werent interested. I realize this is a numbers game, but if you had ignored the 80% that werent giving you IOIs and gone after the 20% that had, i believe you'd be much better off. At least that's my personal experience.

When you go up to girls that havent conveyed interest...you fall into this trap of trying to "convert" them and almost trying to win them over....which never ends well. I;ve had great success just going out and being social and not trying to worry about getting laid. If you see a girl checking you out, then by all means open her. But dont spend your entire night stressing over making yourself constantly approach honeys who arent even interested..

Good post though. i agree
+1 Repped :up:

For the 80% that don't smile or find a way to get next to you.. I think of the low I.L. hottie like a cat. If you just do your thing, the cat might come up to you. Go for the cat and it will run off.

Pounce and show that you are a man on the other 20%.. because if she smiles, she wants you to approach... so do it.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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MillionBillionaire said:
+1 Repped :up:

For the 80% that don't smile or find a way to get next to you.. I think of the low I.L. hottie like a cat. If you just do your thing, the cat might come up to you. Go for the cat and it will run off.

Pounce and show that you are a man on the other 20%.. because if she smiles, she wants you to approach... so do it.
you should also smile at them. then they smile back then b-0000mmm youre in .
 

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More on this strategy. If you tell your plates that you are following it and also show through your actions that you can walk the walk then they will fall over themselves to make sure that you know they are interested.

Something like "I've decided that from now on I'm gonna spend my time on the people who give me the most in return."
 
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