Trying to fvuk a friend gone wrong

[ready123]

Personally i don't put any effort into any girl unless she's worth it in the first place. Sex or lack of isn't a factor in my original interest.

For djdamage and to not "go along" with it is his prerogative, but that approach will find a higher concentration of sluts than mine, assuredly. That approach could surely lose alot of high quality girls. Of course, if you don't get that type of girl in the first place, you won't notice the error of your ways.



I agree, its completely not a set rule. BUT you say yo draw NO distinction between wholesome or slutty behavior? That's pretty dumb. What i try to do is tell go from a case-by-case basis. I know some of the nicest girls out there who come across slutty but they're really not. That's fine, i get that. But a girl's behavior is important, not reading it whatsoever seems naive.

only distinction I make when it comes to sex is responsible vs reckless sexual behavior, and that's because I wana avoid STD's. How much sex they have, which is the conventional way to determine if a girl's a slut, has nothing to do with this

IMO the old slut vs good girl model doesn't stick. almost every girl will exhibit slutty behavior under certain circumstances. the ones that don't are confused about sex because they've pigeonholed themselves into an identity they struggle with just to protect themselves from being judged.

a girl being comfortable with her sexual side is way more attractive to me than her not giving it up because society tells her she shouldn't. the latter girl is gonna have some issues

 

[sanoj]

Thanks for the replies guys.

What happened was that we countinued with our "study dates" and I made another move and was going for sex. Once again she didn't want to. I said that I got insulted and said that she shouldn't be all touchy and acting like she is my girlfriend anymore. After that we were kinda quiet for a while and I acted like I didn't care and countinued studying quietly.

After a couple of hours we started watching a movie and then she started to get all touchy again. I was about to say stop when she opened my pants and gave me the best BJ I ever had.

By now she knows that sex is nessesary and when she comes to my place the next time she know what I'm going to expect.

 

[Stud No1]

only distinction I make when it comes to sex is responsible vs reckless sexual behavior, and that's because I wana avoid STD's. How much sex they have, which is the conventional way to determine if a girl's a slut, has nothing to do with this

IMO the old slut vs good girl model doesn't stick. almost every girl will exhibit slutty behavior under certain circumstances. the ones that don't are confused about sex because they've pigeonholed themselves into an identity they struggle with just to protect themselves from being judged.

a girl being comfortable with her sexual side is way more attractive to me than her not giving it up because society tells her she shouldn't. the latter girl is gonna have some issues

Ah c'mon man you're being overly simplistic. Yes every girl has such tendencies insofar as they are natural, but some girls expound upon very slutty behavior that other girls would never. e.g. a gangbang. extreme example yes, but the point goes, or at least very rarely would. Thats a HUGE different.

I'm not sure how that can really be up for debate. Some girls sleep around ALOT, some girls sleep around perhaps with only guys they really like or trust, and some girls don't sleep around outside a relationship. Those are facts.

So, if this girl in question is the kind of girl who only has sex inside a relationship then the situation will logically be analyzed differently that a girl that would sleep with everyone else but TS.

 

[Stud No1]

Thanks for the replies guys.

What happened was that we countinued with our "study dates" and I made another move and was going for sex. Once again she didn't want to. I said that I got insulted and said that she shouldn't be all touchy and acting like she is my girlfriend anymore. After that we were kinda quiet for a while and I acted like I didn't care and countinued studying quietly.

After a couple of hours we started watching a movie and then she started to get all touchy again. I was about to say stop when she opened my pants and gave me the best BJ I ever had.

By now she knows that sex is nessesary and when she comes to my place the next time she know what I'm going to expect.

Cool, well there ya go i guess!

Sounds like she is content to have you as a bf figure without the sex, and you want the sex without the gf figure. You threatened to take away the bf figure and she gave in (to a degree). You're both using one another, arguably.

 

[sharkbeat]

Thanks for the replies guys.

What happened was that we countinued with our "study dates" and I made another move and was going for sex. Once again she didn't want to. I said that I got insulted and said that she shouldn't be all touchy and acting like she is my girlfriend anymore. After that we were kinda quiet for a while and I acted like I didn't care and countinued studying quietly.

After a couple of hours we started watching a movie and then she started to get all touchy again. I was about to say stop when she opened my pants and gave me the best BJ I ever had.

By now she knows that sex is nessesary and when she comes to my place the next time she know what I'm going to expect.

Yeah...

 

[ready123]

Some girls sleep around ALOT, some girls sleep around perhaps with only guys they really like or trust, and some girls don't sleep around outside a relationship. Those are facts.

I never disagreed with this

but just because some girls are more wary about sleepign around doesn't mean they hate sex. unless her clt is broken, they love sex, they get horny, they'd like to have it more often. what they do hate though, is guys running around making them feel easy, calling them sluts, ruining their reputation. which is why they gotta constantly hide their sexual appetite. meanwhile she secretly wants a cool guy with enough social intelligence and understanding about women to lead her toward sex without raising all the alarms in her head

I really don't care about arguing about this because to me it's so basic, I don't know how you can get good game without even confronting this

Sounds like she is content to have you as a bf figure without the sex, and you want the sex without the gf figure.

the whole girls only want relationships, guys only want sex type of thinking is so flawed...

 

[Stud No1]

I never disagreed with this

but just because some girls are more wary about sleepign around doesn't mean they hate sex. unless her clt is broken, they love sex, they get horny, they'd like to have it more often. what they do hate though, is guys running around making them feel easy, calling them sluts, ruining their reputation. which is why they gotta constantly hide their sexual appetite. meanwhile she secretly wants a cool guy with enough social intelligence and understanding about women to lead her toward sex without raising all the alarms in her head

I really don't care about arguing about this because to me it's so basic, I don't know how you can get good game without even confronting this



the whole girls only want relationships, guys only want sex type of thinking is so flawed...

Well i dont really disagree with any of that either. But i should say, i know some girls who would never have sex outside a relationship despite being self-professed horny mofos. Not that that contradicts what you say, all im saying is, for that level of "comfort" to be reached depends on the girl.


as for the flawed logic of girls only wanting relationships, i wasn't speaking in generalities i was speaking in TS's case - and i wasn't even speaking about relationship i just said "bf figure" as that appears to be what she wants, probably for esteem reasons or social proofing or whatever

 

[DonJuan11]

Hi.

I've been friends with this girl for about 4 months and I can see that she likes me. After getting dumped, I made a move on her and told her that i wanted sex.

Whoa. Not the best idea. Translation: My ex just dumped me because I didn't have enough game to keep her entertained. I can no longer pop my cherry inside of her, wondering if you'll let me pop it inside of you for a while since my ego has taken a beating?


She didn't get pissed, but she didn't wanna have sex either. She made up an excuse about thin walls or something After kissing for a while i went home.

The thing is.. She's been contacting me and hanging out with me all week and started acting like she is my girlfriend. A little kissing, holding my hand, touching me in a sensual way, wants me to touch her. But when the kissing/touching escalades, she backs off.

Translation: I don't want you to just pop your cherry inside of me and then ditch me once you are done. I want you to like me the same way I like you and put some time and effort into this.

This weekend she wanted to spend the night on my couch. Finally, I thought. Turns out she really did want to sleep on the couch. I initiated sex, but she backed off yet again, so I told her that I must have misunderstood her intentions.

Whoa dude take it easy. Either you've been watching too much porn or expect sex at a dime's notice every day. A girl crashes on your couch because she's tired and you think she wants to screw your brains out? I hate to think what you would think if she wanted to sleep in the room next to you.

Is she playing me or what?

How come she don't want to have sex if she likes me that much?

Her: I like Sanoj but I don't want him to put it inside of me and then drop me off at the curb like a garbage bag. Hopefully by taking things slow he'll appreciate me more and we can develop this into a relationship, because if he just wants to put it in a warm place, he can go find a prostitute and then won't have to worry about all this drama I'm causing him.

Either

(1) Respect her wishes and develop the relationship
(2) Find a prostitute

 

[shaunuk]

I agree with DonJuan11's summary.

She's given you a BJ now that you've pushed harder and insisted you won't stick around without your needs being fullfilled (and that's fair enough).

 

[sanoj]

You might be on to something there DonJuan11.

She told me that me being sexist turns her on though :O She basicly like that I treat her like a little girl and taking charge.

I'm learned so much after being a "nice guy" to the former girl(oneitis).

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

Wow some of you guys are stupid. Like I can't even believe the dumb things you guys have told this guy.

How smart did she play this? Not a ***** and moving in for an obvious relationship. I seriously think some of you need to give your heads a shake. Like its pretty obvious which ones of you are not getting any.