DJDamage said:
You know what's facinating about words?! is that you can change a few words here and there and make it sounds as if what you said came out of my mouth.
What I wrote was in refrence to the OP problem and I quote "This is bullsh1t games, which I do not tolerate but there are some who do and 9 out of 10 times they will pay for it".
Now if you want to put up with games of women not fvcking you and coming over to your house only to be sleeping on the couch (while fully knowing well that you do want to fvck her) then that's bullsh1t games in my book.
As for the comment of the type of women I meet, they tend to be the sweet and innocent type of women who blush often, who come from stable homes, and don't curse and from the outside they look like the early college girl next door type, the one that has a steady borefriend(yeah i said borefriend) for years.... that one you never ever suspect that she could be cheating on her boyfriend. You see some of them just can't help it. I know in your mind you have the image of some "angelic creature" that on occasions desires to have a c0ck stuffed inside her only from a steady partners and therefore she isn't a slvt as opposed to other women who just want to have c0ck all the time. Is there a difference between the two? not really since you never know if the woman you have now in LTR, isn't bored of you and dreaming of another guy's c0ck which is where I enter the picture.
How comfortable can you get? suppose a woman has abandonment issues?! do i need to wait years for her? does having sex on the first date any ways more different then the third?! is there a time limit on this?! suppose I spend a whole day with a woman which equals roughly 16 hours and sleep with her that same day, does that make her any less of a woman if I went out on 4 dates with her and spend 16 hours in total and then at the end of the fourth date I end up fvcking her?!
They have been friends for only 4 fvcking months, which means nothing. That is not friendship that is two people sitting together in a coffee shop with different motives and reasons of being there. I bet he doesn't know a thing about her. Sure he knows where she goes to school or what she does for a living, her likes and dislikes and her fears and other non esstential information. But what he doesn't know is her true nature and instead of being direct about it, he fumbles around and assumes that he is getting somewhere with her. Maybe he will get somewhere with her, I am not denying the possiblity but all that wasted time could have gone towards other women who don't play those type of games.
Yes it is the real world, and the world is not always what it seems. With women I have learned that actions speaks louder then words. I have also learned what you see is not often what you get, and what you get is not often as what you see.
What you may so called witnessed is a girl manipulating and using her sexuality to get what she wants because she knows that most guys are grovelling for her pvssy and she also knows that she has the upper hand. She can take her sweet time because those guys are not going anywhere and therefore she can be picky and choosy and dictate what or when things are going to happen.
You think if she were to ever bump into her movie star idol that she would turn him down if he asks her for sex?!
All i can say is that you're living in your own skewed reality. Asking things like what's the difference when she puts out is dumb, because it often matters to HER, even if if doesn't matter so much to the guy.
So by the sounds of it your experience comes in an opportunist manner, aka girls in a relationship that are being disloyal. Well, news to you buddy, of course those girls are going to give it up, shy or not they're using you for sex pretty much. See how many of them leave their bf's for you, because i bet most wouldn't. You're a convenience, not superior to their bf you just fit in nicely in the back-burner.
As for the movie star example, not only is that an extreme outlandish example, it also isn't really pertinent because they would know they are having sex with that guy on a one-off basis. Just because they would sleep with their famous crush doesn't mean they should treat every tom **** and harry that they think is hot or whatever, the same. By that reckoning, every girl would have 100+ sexual partners at no age. Simply put, girls ration it, even if it means having to control themselves against their urges.
Again, i don't see the problem with a girl, especially one that doesn't have a promiscuous past whatsoever, to take things slowly. You continue to distort that situation to one where manipulation is occurring but that may or may not be the case.
I think you've been hurt badly in the past? Because you like to pretend every girl has an agenda and every move is a calculated one. Don't get me wrong theres so many *****es that manipulate to get what they want etc, but its far from universal no matter how you portray it.
Lastly, the comfort issue. Why use an example of someone with abandonment issues? If the girl you really wanted had such issues, well its up to you to work with those, isn't it? Every girl will have a different threshold for comfort and rapport before having sex, some don't need to know your name, but if she's genuine, then you should respect that.
Of course, if she's out sucking some other guy off and at the same time, playing TS, that's different. That could well be the case, i dunno. But what i do know, is there's plenty of decent girls too that consider having sex as a massive thing and want to make sure they don't regret doing it. So don't be so skeptical of a girl that doesn't want to have sex right away.
Say what you want, but if you meet a girl and have sex with her after 3/4 hours, and you end up in a relationship, don't you think she was a rather easy lay? Now, she could be the nicest girl in the world, really loyal etc. But im sure, a girl that sleeps with you very quickly, A) does that frequently B) Will have a bigger propensity to sleep with someone else behind your back than someone who doesn't sleep around (rules are never absolute of course).
All im saying, is i laugh at guys who get the lay the first night and think they're somehow 'special' and it was only a one-off for the girl. How often, really, did the guy truly sweep her off her feet and make her act differently that she usually would? Hardly ever. Further, for that reason, the easy lay rarely stimulates me beyond outright lust (which is fine, i just don't draw unrealistic conclusions about her behavior like many do) because i know no matter what i did, there was no way i was so special that made her give it up ridiculously easy as a "one-off". This is why one night stands usually don't lead to a relationship, and certainly not a good one.
But hell, each to their own.
) She knows that I just got out of a "thing", so she know that she would be just a rebound girl.
