"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Trying something new after a rejection

donjuanapprentice01

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So, I was sitting on my couch reading and something just hit me. When most men get rejected, they usually just get the heck out of there. That's what I did anyways. But next time I'm going to come prepared and get at least the last word in and make it C + F on the chick. For example on the most common excuses from chicks:

HB: Sorry, I have a boyfriend
me: Yes, I see your invisible boyfriend next to you.. hi boyfriend!
or if you want to be ballsy, you can say:
me: Yes, I know you do, he is right here talking to you. (ok, that might be a little creepy thinking about it)

HB: I'm not looking to date right now
me: Neither am I! What made you think I'd want to date you anyways?

HB: Sorry, you aren't my type
me: I know I'm not, I'm not the type golddiggers go for.

HB: Sorry, I'm to busy to be dating guys right now. I need to focus on my career.
me: I understand. You probably have so many guys lining up to give you $100 bills for your time. Better work on that career.

These are just some examples I can think of right now, but those 4 cover about 80% of the pathetic excuses these girls give us when rejecting. Another thing to do is call out the chick when she gives some lame excuse (this really pisses me off by the way, because it insults my intelligence) For example:

HB: Sorry, I can't go out with you tonight, something has come up.
me: What's so important that makes you want to flake on a great guy like me?
HB: um, well.... um, family stuff.
me: Yeah, I understand. That's ok, tell your friends at the club/bar I said hi

Or when a girl cancels on a first date after she agreed to go out with you.

HB: Sorry, I can't make it.
me: No, don't say sorry, I'm the one that's sorry you won't be hanging out with a cool guy like me!

What I love about this is that it turns the tables on the chick. Now, I love women, but sometimes you go to get under their skin a bit. Be an *******, ****, whatever to them. Most AFC's just walk away (like I did), doing this will at least leave a short term impression on the chick. They will be stunned and shocked after you turn the tables.

Well, I'm going to start doing this from now on and see what happens.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Ok, they are good responses. What would you say to a Asian girl from a very conservative family who says I cant date you cause my family have found out about us? (baring in mind the whole honour and pride thing as well as the possibilty the family could be in to honour killings or forced marriages)?
 

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Cinamon said:
What would you say to a Asian girl from a very conservative family who says I cant date you cause my family have found out about us? (baring in mind the whole honour and pride thing as well as the possibilty the family could be in to honour killings or forced marriages)?
You say... 'NEXT'
 

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Most of those responses would get you slapped where I'm from... and greeting the invisible boyfriend is plain silly.
 

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Phoenix said:
Most of those responses would get you slapped where I'm from... and greeting the invisible boyfriend is plain silly.
Agreed.

To me,this whole "trying something new after a rejection" thing is a waste of time.

Ridiculous,really.

Why are you spending time preparing for rejection,instead of preparing for success? Seems like you're more focused on trying to come up with some "witty" remark than trying to do the things to avert rejection in the first place.

I'd hate to have you as a wingman.

I'd be saying positive affirmations to myself to get myself pumped up and motivated,while you'd be trying to decide which smart-alek cutdown to use after getting rejected.

You're more prepared for if she say no than if she says yes.

That's ridiculous. So if a girl turns you down,you'd be cool,calm,and already know how to respond because you've put the time and effort into how to handle the situation. But if she says yes,you'd probably freak out and wet your pants.

Believe it or not,I've actually been in a situation like that before.

A few years ago,this is what happened to me: I go bowling every week,and there was this girl who I had seen over and over again who worked there.
I had seen her many times,but never approched or spoke to her. So one day,I decided to talk to her and ask her out. So I went up to her,ask her name,introduced myself,and asked her if she'd like to get together sometime.


She turned me down. Told me that she was already in a relationship. I asked her if it was serious,and she said yes. So I said alright,told her that I just wanted to meet her,then I left. Now every so often I'd see her up at the bowling alley,but I wouldn't stop to talk to her. I'd just say "hey" or "what's up?" in passing,she'd respond by saying hi,then I'd just continue on my way.


So a month or two later,I saw her again at the bowling alley,and I asked her out again. She turned me down again,saying she was still with the other guy. I said ok,then moved on.


Then,like a month or two later,I was up at the bowling alley. I was just bowling,minding my own business. Then one time after I threw the ball,I turned around to walk back up to the ballreturn,And when I looked up,she was standing at a table directly behind my lane looking at me.
She was just standing there,looking at me.

Now when I saw her looking at me,I said to myself,"Uhh,ok. Why is she staring at me like that". And to be honest,it made me uncomfortable. So what did I do? I ignored her,and went right back to bowling. Well,I threw the ball and the ball got stuck. So I told the people at the counter,and while I was waiting,I decided to talk to this girl...who was still standing there looking at me.


So I walked up to her,asked her what she was up to,then I said,"So what's up? I mean,I haven't changed my mind,I still want to see you".
Now,this was the third time I had asked her out,so I was just expecting her to say no like the previous 2 times...only this time,it was going to be the last time. I wasn't going to ask her out again. Well guees what?

She said,"OK". That's it. No "maybes",no "mights",no "I don't knows".
Just flat out "ok". I was SHOCKED. I had already gotten used to her turning me down,so when she said yes,I almost screwed it up by not knowing how to respond.



I said ALL THAT to say this: Dude,stop focusing on rejection. Stop preparing for it.

Prepare for success. That way,you'll be more successful.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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The idea behind all that is self confidence.
AND, more importantly , that you have a neutrality about it, and a playful sense too.
Dont be an ass hole. Dont be vindictive, and seek revenge or retribution.
Women who act like that arent always the healthiest ones to be with.

Dont go too far over the other way.
Being an ass hole is not an option to not being an AFC.
Just be a man.
And you dont know what physical type she likes.
But she's open to a guy who is confident, self assured, sociall adjusted, and masculine.
Thats why theres no real solid reason not to approach.
You dont know what the circumstances is, AND you dont know what she's really like. So you gather information, and have fun with her.
Thats it really. Its not supposed to be complicated, and some sort of mathematical algorithm or whatever.

So be careful of going to far the other way because of a need to seek power after too many 'rejections'.
Dont go the retribution, revenge seeking route.
When a woman you approached acts like a b*tch, just leave her alone.
Anything else is just seeking approval and acceptance from someone who isnt really worth your time and resources anyway.

Good luck.
 
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