"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Tried and tested techniques from my repertoire-sometimes you need to think different

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Sometimes I feel really sad when I read a lot of wanna-be PUAs struggling to get the girls they want. The tried and tested techniques of the DJ Bible will generally work - but when you take into account varying attributes of both the PUA (skills/confidence) and the Victim (reception to PU, looks, desperation, how drunk they are, etc), things aren't always so easy.

Firstly, a little back-story.

When I was in high school, I was your typical nerd. This was back in the mid-1990s. When my contemporaries were out with hot, young, nubile girls, sexing them, I was at home playing D&D, cultivating a neckbeard, and dreaming of women.

All that changed when I got into the PUA scene. I have found the PUA tips serve me well - but sometimes you need to go beyond the realms of PUA school and try some unique tips.

I'd like to share some great tips I have used.

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1. The Diversion

What you need here is a mate, to be the foil for your antics. What he has to do is approach a girl at the bar (one that is pretty drunk), and hassle her. Nothing that will get him booted out or arrested, but he should be very sleazy, grope the girls arse, make sexual remarks, etc.

What you then do, is arrive on the scene, and loudly proclaim "WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON HERE?", before proceeding to smash the **** out of your mate.

Then, you ignore the girl. Do not even register that she eixsts. You want her to think that you don't care she exists.

This approach is one I have tried numerous times, and I'd say the hit-rate (% of times I end up banging them) is probably 50-60.

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Would anyone like to hear some more tips? :D

Anyway it's great to be a part of these forums, I used to post here a few years ago but lost my password.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Actually one more, see if I can pique your interest for me to share more :flowers:

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2. The Test

This one actually works, very well. The hit-% is probably quite low, I'd say low-40s actually, but it is certainly one of my favourite techniques.

Now to do this, what you'll need, is to be comfortable with your sexuality, and to be quite open and confident. You need a mate as a foil willing to go along.

What you and the foil do, is act like a gay couple at a gay-bar. Maybe some light kissing, groping, even some grinding if you really want to set the scene.
Why do this? Because gay-bars are full of victims who have their guard down. The girls will see you as a gay couple and wrongly assume you are no threat.

What you and your pseudo-b/f will then do, is find a very drunk and attractive victim. You then say you are very interested in a threesome as neither of you have ever had sex with a woman before.

No girl will be able to resist the ego-boost of thinking they may be able to turn a gay man straight. If you can keep the story going, you WILL get them into bed. You and your mate need to engage in some light sexual foreplay here, to keep the story - THEN comes the switch.

Your fake-male-partner takes an "emergency phone call" and has to leave IMMEDIATELY.

Suddenly you are left naked in bed with a hot woman - she is all yours.

The best thing about this plan is that it is very easy to dump / get rid of the victim the next day, you just say you are gay. No woman will argue.

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So what do you guys reckon?

Anyone been bold enough to try this? Anyone got any field reports?

I have to admit, it can feel a little gay when you're cupping your mates scrotum (lol!), but trust me, it's worth it if you can pull off this unique gem. A true classic alt-PUA skill.
 

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Hmm those are some new ones I'll have to give them a shot this weekend when I'm out hitting the club scene.

A new thing I've found that works quite well which some DJ's may not believe is is when I'm at the bar and open my wallet to buy some drinks I have it stuffed full of empty condom wrappers. Some fall on the ground or whatever but if a girl is watching you she will usually come up and start chattin' with you and stuff.

I basically just play it off as if I didn't even know those were in there LOL :cool:
 

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That's a ****en awesome idea mate, actually reminds me of one I used to use a few years ago, I used to take a vibrator to the clubs and get it out on the dancefloor - guess what happens when you pull out a vibrator on a packed dance floor that's pumping with hot, sweaty, drunk, horny victims!!! ... I'll leave it to your imagination :)
 

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Wow these are some awesome techniques, guys. Seriously, I'm not being sarcastic at all. The next time I go out, I'm going to bring a vibrator, a wallet full of empty condom wrappers, and a stupid friend who will let me punch him in the face or make out with him in order to convince a girl at a gaybar that we're homosexuals who want to have sex with women for the first time, at which point he will voluntarily eject and let me have all the fun.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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dbot,

I understand where you are coming from - these ideas may seem radical, unrealistic, or over-the-top.

However, these are not ideas that should form part of the basic PUA-toolkit. These are for serious PUAs who have a victim they just can't crack. These are the big guns. When your classic DJ Bible skills will not do the trick.

Sometimes it takes a lot to get what you want - but trust me it is worth whatever it takes if you can finally get that victim you've been after for several months.

I know a lot of people are not going to want to try #2, The Test, but trust me, it is the only strategy that will get you the "un-obtainable" girl. NO girl is going to say no to the ego-boost that comes with taking the virginity of a gay man. Trust me, I have seen it time and time again, where I have been able to get the impossible using the test.

I'm actually quite active in the local PUA-competition scene, we have a 5-round series here in Australia, each round being at a different bar over the course of the year (not sure if any other countries have PUA comps???).

Anyway, at the last round, we were at a local bar and one victim which had been identified by the judges, had not been got by anyone. No one could crack it. She was chosen as the "boss" level challenge, as she was married, very attractive, etc.

All the other playas used the classic DJ techniques, but to no avail, this sober, attractive, married woman was a no go.

Cue me and my foil engaged in the The Test (yes we even did it away from a gay-bar).

Guess who ended up in bed with the boss level challenge :cheer: :crackup: :p
 

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dbot said:
Wow these are some awesome techniques, guys. Seriously, I'm not being sarcastic at all. The next time I go out, I'm going to bring a vibrator, a wallet full of empty condom wrappers, and a stupid friend who will let me punch him in the face or make out with him in order to convince a girl at a gaybar that we're homosexuals who want to have sex with women for the first time, at which point he will voluntarily eject and let me have all the fun.
HAHAHA .. tried and tested too..... god i think there is a need for 'mature don juan tips' forum too now
 

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Majestick said:
These seem to have a scent of desperation to them, IMO. =/
Man - these are tips for only the hardest victims to crack - when all else fails.

Also I don't see why people are saying it's gay?

Homosexuality (from wikipedia) refers to:

"having sexual and romantic attraction primarily or exclusively to members of one’s own sex";
How is engaging in sexual foreplay / fake sex with your mate to impress a woman gay?

When you make out with your mate at the club you don't have to use tongue, and you don't actually need to really stroke their penis or anything, just gotta keep the appearance up for your victim.

Trust me, I have used this technique several times - only time it failed was when the girl left to the bathroom and didn't come back and I was left in bed with my mate - hard to explain that one when my housemate came back!!! :rockon:

Another tip:

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#3 - At the beach!

This is a classic, it's good if you like role-play.

What you do here is pretend you have seen a jelly-fish close to the water-front, and advise everyone to get out of the water - what this does is shows girls you are a natural leader, and when you approach her later (use a lead-in like "hey, sorry about that warning before, I just like to look-out for people"), you have something to speak about.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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SweetArsePUA!!! said:
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1. The Diversion

What you need here is a mate, to be the foil for your antics. What he has to do is approach a girl at the bar (one that is pretty drunk), and hassle her. Nothing that will get him booted out or arrested, but he should be very sleazy, grope the girls arse, make sexual remarks, etc.

What you then do, is arrive on the scene, and loudly proclaim "WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON HERE?", before proceeding to smash the **** out of your mate.

Then, you ignore the girl. Do not even register that she eixsts. You want her to think that you don't care she exists.

This approach is one I have tried numerous times, and I'd say the hit-rate (% of times I end up banging them) is probably 50-60.
This reminds me of that one Jennifer Lopez movie where the guy does something like this, marries her and ends up being a wife-beater
 
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