Tricky-Tricky-Tricky! When would you make a move?

[ucmedv8]

I just started implementing Mr. Fingers' "Escaping the Friend Zone" techniques on a friend of mine. Check out his classic post here:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43174&highlight=turning+friend

The problems w/my situation:
1) I've been her friend for about a year now
2) She lives in the apt. above her ex-boyfriends (he broke up w/her in October)
3) She is clearly not over him and is constantly hanging out w/him
-this is largely due to him being her 1st bf and being the only dude she has had sex with.

Bright spots:
1) He is likely going to move to a different place in the same general area once his lease ends at the end of August.
2) At the end of August the girl in question is going to Sweden for about a month and has told me that I could stay with her and her family in Sweden during this summer's trip.

Questions:
1) When would you make a move on this girl?
2) How would you go about getting out of the friend zone and turning her over to the dark side? Thanks!

 

[CarbonFX]

1) I've been her friend for about a year now

Don't even try, don't even think about trying. Forget about her chill with the boys enjoy life to the fullest extent, cease contact with her and maybe a few years from now you'll get your chance.

Ironically, at that point you probably won't want her. The paradox of life lol.

 

[Gustav Yavo]

The juice in these situations is never worth the squeeze. It takes so much energy to get out the friendzone, then if you do, she'll probably be still thinking bout her ex, which cuts your work out even more for you.

 

[Mavrick]

It's Tricky to rock a rhyme, to rock a rhyme that's right on time
It's Tricky...it's Tricky (Tricky) Tricky (Tricky)
It's Tricky to rock a rhyme, to rock a rhyme that's right on time
It's Tricky...Tr-tr-tr-tricky (Tricky) Trrrrrrrrrrrickyy!

 

[Warrior74]

How many other women are you talking to right now?

 

[ucmedv8]

How many other women are you talking to right now?

Yeah, I know exactly what you're alluding to. I have two other plates spinning.

I've been in the game for a few years and at this point I know exactly what I want, hence why I'm hung up on this chick even though there have been many girls in the picture this whole time that I've known her. She is ltr material in my book. So when should I go for the kiss close?

 

[ucmedv8]

I'm thinking I'll keep things casual for now and spin other plates. When in Sweden I will make a move.

 

[pua1989]

well you have to make sure you really want to make a move....it would probably put a damper on the trip if you made a move on your friend, she didnt have the reciprocated feelings, and you still had to live with her afterwards...just throwin that out there